NICEIC Certification Scheme 2391 V NICEIC - Whats the point in 2391??

[JAWS]

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As anyone can be a busy fool! So why not make your time as profitable as possible.

Perhaps I should clarify my opinion of fully qualified? Someone who holds 236-1/2 (yes I’m old enough to date your nan lol) hold the 17th edition update (everyone has this right ?) as well as being time served with enough experience to hold a JIB Approved Electrician card as a minimum.
While those who don’t have the above are likely to get all out of shape (tea/cake stop imminent).
Let me ask you this? If you were paying for an electrician to work on you house wouldn’t you want them to be able to demonstrate their competence to do so with recognised qualifications, competence & experience (they don’t give away JIB Approved Electrician status do they?) together with accountability should anything happen?

Do I agree with the scams? Absolutely not! At. 54 I don’t profess to know it all... far from it, but as an Approved Electrician with both 236-1/2, 2400, 2391, 2382, 2377.
I fail to see why I’m forced to subscribe to play their game so as to be seen able & above board to trade as an “Approved Comtractor”

Why do I? Because I’m able to charge a premium as well as choosing the jobs I prefer...to a large degree.

As anyone can be a busy fool! So why not make your time as profitable as possible.

Perhaps I should clarify my opinion of fully qualified? Someone who holds 236-1/2 (yes I’m old enough to date your nan lol) hold the 17th edition update (everyone has this right ?) as well as being time served with enough experience to hold a JIB Approved Electrician card as a minimum.
While those who don’t have the above are likely to get all out of shape (tea/cake stop imminent).
Let me ask you this? If you were paying for an electrician to work on you house wouldn’t you want them to be able to demonstrate their competence to do so with recognised qualifications, competence & experience (they don’t give away JIB Approved Electrician status do they?) together with accountability should anything happen?

Do I agree with the scams? Absolutely not! At. 54 I don’t profess to know it all... far from it, but as an Approved Electrician with both 236-1/2, 2400, 2391, 2382, 2377.
I fail to see why I’m forced to subscribe to play their game so as to be seen able & above board to trade as an “Approved Comtractor”

Why do I? Because I’m able to charge a premium as well as choosing the jobs I prefer...to a large degree.

As anyone can be a busy fool! So why not make your time as profitable as possible.

Are you JIB gold card status qualified Amptramp?

 

[Midwest]

I will look forward to seeing if they stick their head up, be intresting to see the views they have of the CPSs

My view is they are bloody expensive, and you get little back for your money. Tech support is good though, and so is the on-line certification, until Certsure did a upgrade last week!

Do my customers know about the 'schemes'? One or two might, but most customers seem to pick trades by word of mouth recommendation. At least with a gaggle of them, some are jockying for position with their fees

 

[Pete999]

I did say from Electrician Pete, so all those other things had to be in place. Least I had to take the exam as well. Answers were always 'C'.

Oh I had the right quals already City and Guilds "A" "B" "C" and Full Tech Certificate, as it was in those days, so I answered all the questions correctly as well. I to was Graded as an Electrician, the 2 years post Apprenticeship were as an Electician, after 2 years Approved, got the Grade "Technician Electrician" when I was the right age and with more experience. The Grades wern't bought by doing courses, they were earned by doing an approved Apprenticeship, took me 6 years to complete my Apprenticeship, 6 months probation, 6 months as an Improver, and 5 years as an Apprentice, I'll get into hot water if I go full on, so to please the few I'll shut up now OK.

 

[Midwest]

I got a collection of C&G certificates, not the Technician one mind; went onto to pastures new before that. Just checking them out now. Didn't remember I got a cse in French, mon dieu

 

[Dillb]

Are you JIB gold card status qualified Amptramp?

I wouldn’t take being a JIB gold card holder as being a decent sparks either. It’s all about performing on the job. Qualifications are easily obtained compared to experience. I only recently did my NVQ as needed a gold card for a job I was doing, yet have been working as a spark for 20 years, the card or any CPS doesn’t all of a sudden make you a better spark over night.

 

[JAWS]

I wouldn’t take being a JIB gold card holder as being a decent sparks either. It’s all about performing on the job. Qualifications are easily obtained compared to experience. I only recently did my NVQ as needed a gold card for a job I was doing, yet have been working as a spark for 20 years, the card or any CPS doesn’t all of a sudden make you a better spark over night.

That's what I am saying because Amptramp said he has the 236-1/2, 2400, 2391, 2382, 2377 and been an electrician for many yrs but for many employers he would be seen as under qualified although having many yrs as an experienced electrician hence why its hard to tell these days who is more qualified then who whether you hold this qualification or that qualification.

 

[Pete999]

I did say from Electrician Pete, so all those other things had to be in place. Least I had to take the exam as well. Answers were always 'C'.

Oh I had the right quals already City and Guilds "A" "B" "C" and Full Tech Certificate, as it was in those days, so I answered all the questions correctly as well. I to was Graded as an Electrician, the 2 years post Apprenticeship were as an Electician, got the Grade "Technician Electrician" when I was the right age and with more experience.

That's what I am saying because Amptramp said he has the 236-1/2, 2400, 2391, 2382, 2377 and been an electrician for many yrs but for many employers he would be seen as under qualified although having many yrs as an experienced electrician hence why its hard to tell these days who is more qualified then who whether you hold this qualification or that qualification.

Your right Mate follow the "SWA for tails " post fom the very begining and see what you think.

 

[Pete999]

Oh I had the right quals already City and Guilds "A" "B" "C" and Full Tech Certificate, as it was in those days, so I answered all the questions correctly as well. I to was Graded as an Electrician, the 2 years post Apprenticeship were as an Electician, after 2 years Approved, got the Grade "Technician Electrician" when I was the right age and with more experience. The Grades wern't bought by doing courses, they were earned by doing an approved Apprenticeship, took me 6 years to complete my Apprenticeship, 6 months probation, 6 months as an Improver, and 5 years as an Apprentice, I'll get into hot water if I go full on, so to please the few I'll shut up now OK.

What do you disagree with Amptramp, you see this is the trouble with people dislike, disagree with no explanation, tell me what your disagreement is and we can have a discussion about it, or you can keep stum, come on mate open up.

 

[amptramp]

Hi Pete999

I’m unaware I’d disagreed with you without explaination.
If you’re looking for a verbal punchbag to vent your vitriol once again you’re going to have to look elsewhere, as I’m of for tea for another 4 years.
I could explain it to you but unfortunately I cannot comprehend it for you.

Bye.

 

[Pete999]

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Hi Pete999

I’m unaware I’d disagreed with you without explaination.
If you’re looking for a verbal punchbag to vent your vitriol once again you’re going to have to look elsewhere, as I’m of for tea for another 4 years.
I could explain it to you but unfortunately I cannot comprehend it for you.

Bye.

Short but no evidence, vitriolic, what me or, you? gusess you will choose the later as you can't comprehend it, what ever that means, maybe see you later when you choose to have a go at someone else, and disappear without a trace for a few weeks.

 

[Deleted member 26818]

Can have a go at me.

 

[Pete999]

Can have a go at me.

Deleted

 

[camerabloke]

What’s amptramps problem?

 

[Pete999]

What’s amptramps problem?

Not sure

 

[Toneyz]

Maybe he felt underqualified after reading Pete's history how he became an approved electrician.