6381Y PVC

[WallaceP]

Hey, has anyone used 6381Y PVC double insulated flexible tails for meter tails? Personal I have only used 6181Y Double insulated tails before but I seen them in a catalog and thought the flexible tails could be handy. Only seems to come in double blue or double grey tho, well in this CEF catalog anyway.

 

[Barry123]

pretty sure they have a 3m tails set in store of the 6381y. ive seen meter fitters use them alot now.

 

[davesparks]

I've never seen that cable used for tails, I use 19 strand tails as they are now more commonly available,i think that's 6181yh.

6381Y looks like fine stranded flex so will need ferrules fitted and won't be accepted by some meter operators for connection to their meter.

 

[Dustydazzler]

Only ever seen 6381 flex used for D.C

 

[Pete999]

Hey, has anyone used 6381Y PVC double insulated flexible tails for meter tails? Personal I have only used 6181Y Double insulated tails before but I seen them in a catalog and thought the flexible tails could be handy. Only seems to come in double blue or double grey tho, well in this CEF catalog anyway.

That cable is not DOUBLE INSULATED, Wallace it s insulated with a Mechanical Outer sheath the same as the Twin and Earth cable used house wiring, have you ever seen the Double Insulated square within a square on consumers unit tails?

 

[WallaceP]

That cable is not DOUBLE INSULATED, Wallace it s insulated with a Mechanical Outer sheath the same as the Twin and Earth cable used house wiring, have you ever seen the Double Insulated square within a square on consumers unit tails?

I guess you are technically correct but this is a fairly common term for this cable. To save any regional confusion over terms, I gave the code also. Sorry you seem to struggle with the difference between common terms and technical terms it must make your life a lot harder than it could be trying to prove yourself.

 

[Dustydazzler]

Insulated and sheathed

Let’s all play nice

 

[Pete999]

I guess you are technically correct but this is a fairly common term for this cable. To save any regional confusion over terms, I gave the code also. Sorry you seem to struggle with the difference between common terms and technical terms it must make your life a lot harder than it could be trying to prove yourself.

No not really, especially when, I am correct.

 

[WallaceP]

? Best call them up, could be an opportunity for a new proof reader coming up soon.

 

[Pete999]

View attachment 52389? Best call them up, could be an opportunity for a new proof reader coming up soon.

Someone else who has got it wrong then, still we can't all be perfrct can we? from CEF well say np more, blimey Wallace you certainly have got a Bee in your Bonnet haven't you?

 

[telectrix]

we used to refer as double insulated, same as we said ring main. both terms now incorrect. same as what we used to call an earth wire is now a cpc. current terms are technically correct. just wish we'd stuck to inches and real measurements. sick of getting as dual tape measure out to convert mm into inches.

 

[WallaceP]

Someone else who has got it wrong then, still we can't all be perfrct can we? from CEF well say np more, blimey Wallace you certainly have got a Bee in your Bonnet haven't you?

Just a bit of banter

 

[Pete999]

Just a bit of banter

Good glad about that wouldn't want a falling out over something so trivial

 

[Strima]

Just had three days running in 700m of that stuff in a BT exchange in overhead containment. 35mm is delightful to work with when you're 3m up a step ladder trying to reach over the existing baskets and not damage any fibre optics... ?

And no, I wouldn't use it for meter tails as you will need to use ferrules and, as Dave has mentioned, it's doubtful the suppliers would be happy with that. TBH technically I can't see anything wrong with it but no doubt some meter fitter would burst a blood vessel on seeing that...

 

[Simon47]

Yes, I've used it - Cleveland Cable sell it in the "right" colours by the metre. It's just soooooo much easier to work with. IMO it should be safer as well since it will put much less mechanical strain on connections.
It was funny though when trying to buy it. CEF only have grey and blue, at another wholesaler the guy just couldn't compute why anyone wouldn't just use 6181Y as "that's what everyone uses". Found another outfit listing it on their site - but they didn't have all the combinations I needed in stock and only bought in stock if using it for their own internal manufacturing Eventually I found that Cleveland Cable do it.
I also went with tri-rated green/yellow.
As for "but you have to use ferrules". Really ? It takes longer to pop a ferrule on the end than it takes to wrangle 6181Y into shape ?

If a meter fitter said "non" then I'd just ask him to state what regulations say it can't be used, and "until you come up with that, you can darn well get on with your job".

TBH, I've often wondered why 6181Y is even allowed to be used for tails