A hypothetical question.

[Top Cat]

Just had a conversation with my wife about free electricity:-

If pylons are running over your land and you make a coil to get it down to 230V is it "drawing" off electricity from the grid or is it "free" electricity? Does it "hurt" the supply authority? or does it not matter?

 

[Paul.M]

Question: How many blokes are needed to do the housework?

Answer: None .... It's a woman's job !!

(tin hat on)

No need for a tin hat mate .

Besides it was my mess/tools/work clothes I was being made to tidy up like a naughty school boy lol. Anyway I was too busy watching snooker, come on Ali Carter.

 

[Infamous]

As others have said it won't be "free" electricity.

Just like a transformer, loading the secondary coil will cause more current to be drawn on the primary coil. There is a constant EMI relationship.

One of the most common places to see this in action: Take your typical 110V Site transformer. Next time you plug a large load into it, like a chop saw, notice how some of the lighting in close proximity on the 230v side of things dims ever so slightly. The demand on the secondary requires more "oompf" and that oompf comes from more current being drawn on the primary leading to a voltage drop of a few volts on the primary side ( hence momentary dimming)

 

[trev]

the Utopia that is Geordie land!

Can you keep quiet about how great our homeland is please. We like to keep it to ourselves

 

[Guitarist]

Can you keep quiet about how great our homeland is please. We like to keep it to ourselves

Damn, and I was planning to move there from boring old Norfolk...

 

[Top Cat]

As others have said it won't be "free" electricity.

Just like a transformer, loading the secondary coil will cause more current to be drawn on the primary coil. There is a constant EMI relationship.

One of the most common places to see this in action: Take your typical 110V Site transformer. Next time you plug a large load into it, like a chop saw, notice how some of the lighting in close proximity on the 230v side of things dims ever so slightly. The demand on the secondary requires more "oompf" and that oompf comes from more current being drawn on the primary leading to a voltage drop of a few volts on the primary side ( hence momentary dimming)

Well described!

 

[telectrix]

no, TC, he's describing a transformer. a well is a hole in the ground from which you draw water in a bucket to throw over a cat.

 

[Top Cat]

Tel, I had to do a spell check then to see if i had the correct spelling of well! You are a wind up merchant of the first degree but i cant stop smiling. (that doesn't mean i forgive you though!)

 

[mikehopkins]

No it doesn't

 

[Earthstore]

Hey TC, you need PV, coil in the garden connected to generation meter, it would save waiting up for the Economy 7 to kick in....

 

[Top Cat]

Hey TC, you need PV, coil in the garden connected to generation meter, it would save waiting up for the Economy 7 to kick in....

Cheers Earthstore, if you could fit it ASAP i will try it out. Good of you to let me have it FOC (that's Free Of Charge, not any other meaning!):winkiss:

 

[Rockingit]

Slightly off topic, but people do seem to have very strong views on EMF / Health type stuff (whether they actually understand the physics or not is almost irrelevant). Have a customer of mine who has been living very healthily the other side of a wooden panel fence to a very small size substation/switch plant on his estate for many years. Now that they want to sell up and retire, the poor guy has had about 5 offers all fall through he reckons because of it.

 

[Guitarist]

I remember many years ago the discussion about living under the National grid HV lines and how bad it was for you. Now I see massive estates with the "robots" in the back garden.

 

[trev]

Damn, and I was planning to move there from boring old Norfolk...

As long as you bring lots of guitars that'll be fine mate

 

[Guitarist]

I actually play/teach Classical Guitar mate. Hope that's not too boring for you

 

[trev]

I'm busy teaching myself a lot of classical pieces but it's hard doing it with tablature, can't sight read to save my life
Still prefer rocking though

 

[Rockingit]

Still prefer rocking though

Good boy.

 

[Geordie Spark]

As long as you bring lots of guitars that'll be fine mate

I've still got me old Telecaster & Burns Nu Sonic ....... can I join in too ??

 

[High Tower]

72' strat, 85' tele, 90' precision bass!!, vox ac30!! Have it!!!

 

[telectrix]

reminds me of the lad who was up in front of the magistrate for hitting his wife over the heasd with a guitar. when it was time for sentencing, the beak asked him the question " first offender?" and the defendant's brief replied " 2 other offences to be taken into consideration, your worship: one a gibson and the other a burns"

 

[trev]

I've still got me old Telecaster & Burns Nu Sonic ....... can I join in too ??

Why aye bonny lad
(translation for non geordies...Of course you can my fine fellow)

 

[Geordie Spark]

Why aye bonny lad
(translation for non geordies...Of course you can my fine fellow)

Wheyman .... that's champion hinny !!!

 

[trev]

Mebees wu cin have a few borrles o dog an aal, that much that wu cowp wa creels afta like.
(Perhaps we can partake of some brown ale, so much that we fall over later)

 

[Guitarist]

Why aye bonny lad
(translation for non geordies...Of course you can my fine fellow)

I think we've all seen Auf Wiedersehen, Pet

 

[trev]

I think we've all seen Auf Wiedersehen, Pet

But we're living the dream Guitarist

 

[Top Cat]

How did it get from my first post to this?

I blame Geordie, Plink a plonk and Trev!:shocked:

 

[Guitarist]

How did it get from my first post to this?

I blame Geordie, Plink a plonk and Trev!:shocked:

It's called evolution mate

 

[Top Cat]

It's called evolution mate

Now i really thought i would get a reaction about the plink a plonk, good for you Guitarist! I promise never to call it that again!:blush5:

 

[Geordie Spark]

It's called evolution mate

.......... but not as we know it Jim.