Alarm

[telectrix]

yes you get all the tamper loops from all the zones and series them up, so that you end up with 1 wire from circuit 1 and 1 wire from circuit 6 ( or however many zones there are), and these 2 go in the panel global tamper)

 

[Lordy9099]

Does this look about right?

 

[telectrix]

spot on, mate. have to admit. i don't use a choc block. i twist, fold over and sleeve. some say that's bad practice, but i have systems installed from 20 years ago with no problem.

 

[oldtimer]

OK time to get sensible here why run a tamper cos this is a 24 hour monitor where it is a full alarm when the pane is set and a local alarm when unset.

Now you need to run a cable to each pir from the control pane ie a 6-core where red and black is the power yellow and blue is the zone and green and white is the tamer . Now pir wise all the red and blacks go into +12v -12v connection each yellow and blue go into the zone circuit.

Now make it simple for yourself run a 6 core to the door contacts but use yellow and blue for the circuit and green and white for the tamper

Now if you give each device ie door contact and pir their own zone and you can as you have a 8 zone panel after you do the power you have a stack of green and white cable with one tamper circuit so you need to series these up or daisy chain them so the white of the first tamper pair goes to one of the tamper connections then the green of the first tamper pair connects to the white of the 2nd tamper pair and so on until you are left with the green of the last tamper pair this goes into the other tamper circuit connection on the panel BUT before you do this measure the resistance of the full loop and make sure you have continuity.

PS people think a tamper circuit is stupid but a few customers of mine would disagree as they get a cable cut by the joiner laying a new laminated floor and they only find out when they try to set the alarm there is a problem

 

[Lordy9099]

spot on, mate. have to admit. i don't use a choc block. i twist, fold over and sleeve. some say that's bad practice, but i have systems installed from 20 years ago with no problem.

I was planning to twist and solder them together and heat shrink them. Is that possible?

 

[telectrix]

no, because if you get a fault, then you've got to cut the connections out. terminal strip is easiest as you can the undo. thing is, you get called out at midnight to a tamper fault, you ain't going all round the system to find it, you identify the faulty loop and short it out pending further investigation.

 

[Lordy9099]

no, because if you get a fault, then you've got to cut the connections out. terminal strip is easiest as you can the undo. thing is, you get called out at midnight to a tamper fault, you ain't going all round the system to find it, you identify the faulty loop and short it out pending further investigation.

Right. And as far as I know it does not matter what way you have the colours in a tamer terminal. Is this correct?

 

[telectrix]

don't matter. i generally connect blue to yellow then have a blue and yellow into the panel. but itdon't matter if you go blue to blue and yellow to yellow, as long as the loops are all in series.

 

[Lordy9099]

don't matter. i generally connect blue to yellow then have a blue and yellow into the panel. but itdon't matter if you go blue to blue and yellow to yellow, as long as the loops are all in series.

I normally use Red and Black for power Yellow and Blue for zone and Green and White for tamper. But thanks very much, I hope it all goes well when I do this install. I have done upgrades but never a full install and I have a good understanding but I didn't about the series loops.

 

[telectrix]

i've always used gn/w for 12V as that leaves b/bk and r/y for the zone and tamper loops. however, it's more common to use r/bk as 12V, as that is a general +/-. end of the day, it's up to you as long as you remember what's what.

 

[Lordy9099]

i've always used gn/w for 12V as that leaves b/bk and r/y for the zone and tamper loops. however, it's more common to use r/bk as 12V, as that is a general +/-. end of the day, it's up to you as long as you remember what's what.

Thanks you have been a great help! I just hope it all goes well now.

 

[telectrix]

any probs, give me, tazz, or oldtimer a pm.

 

[oldtimer]

any probs, give me, tazz, or oldtimer a pm.

What!!!!!!!! Namedropper lol

 

[telectrix]

well, at least he'll get sensible advice.

 

[Lordy9099]

well, at least he'll get sensible advice.

I agree lol