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I've got my AM2 in a couple of weeks, i've been trying to not overlook anything in my preparation which may have caused me to start over thinking things. So ill probably just keep posting random thoughts on this thread for next couple of weeks.

But for now:

-When filling in the installation certificate under 'Particulars of signatories' its quite clear that i would be the installer and inspector but i haven't designed it, i've just been given the spec. So do i put 'N/A' for designer or is this wrong? because somebody has to of designed it. Am i supposed to just pretend i've designed it?

- When testing i have been given the impression that the assessors don't want you dropping the fronts off of live stuff to test them in the interest of safety. For instance just calculating your Zs for circuits instead of measuring them. If this is the case then how am i supposed to check the phase rotation at the 3 phase socket without dropping the front off? because as far as i know you cant turn the isolator on without a plug in it, so you can't test it with the front on.
 
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What gives you the impression that you are not to do live testing?

When I did the AM2 I seem to recall they supplied a test lead adaptor to plug in to the three phase socket and the motor had 4mm banana sockets fitted.

The best thing is to do the refresher/preparation day (assuming they still do that) as they will cover everything you need to know and you can ask all of these questions directly to the assessor so.


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What gives you the impression that you are not to do live testing?

When I did the AM2 I seem to recall they supplied a test lead adaptor to plug in to the three phase socket and the motor had 4mm banana sockets fitted.

The best thing is to do the refresher/preparation day (assuming they still do that) as they will cover everything you need to know and you can ask all of these questions directly to the assessor so.


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Take Dave's advice and see if they do a practice run, may cost but practice makes perfect.
 
The below is copy and pasted from somewhere else but a great post that explains alot


The test is over 3 days: mon-wed or tue-thur
8am start prompt, finish at 4ish.
theres four sections to complete, listed below:

Section A

Fabrication has been removed entirely as it is thought to be a level 2 skill There are also increased expectations on ability to think about installation design. For example, the correct choice of protective device, the selection of RCD/RCBO for relevant circuits and the correct overload setting within the DOL starter which will be changed frequently so has to be calculated on an individual basis.

Below are some of the expectations for the new qualification:

.SWA termination
.SY (Armourflex) termination
.Twin and CPC (2 way lighting circuit) Wiring in singles
.FP200
.Compartmental trunking
.Tray
.DOL starter and motor circuit (starter pre-wired)
.External socket (to be RCD protected)
.CO2 detector
.Thermostat
.S Plan heating system
.Solar panel
.Earthing systems

Section B and C

Inspection, test and fault finding. This time, the expectation is on the student to complete a full set of BS7671 paperwork, an EIC, Schedules of test results and inspections.

Section D

A 30 question multiple choice paper which will relate to the AM2, such as working safely, risk assessments and methodology. I think this is relatvely easy exam, no need to revise really, you should now them all, if you dont there is 4 books on your desk to look through.

Installation - 8.5hrs
inspection and testing - 3.5 hours
fault diagnosis - 2 hours
multichoice exam - 1 hour

The installation: 3-phase db in the middle wall, we have 3 walls to a bay.

.Safe isolation first thing you do, you must pass 100%


.SWA termination from the db, out at the bottom, glanded, onto cable tray in a 90degree bend into a 3phase isolator. singles into the commando socket from the isolator. 4 core, 6mm, 3 pole MCB, 123 brown black grey, 6mm earth to bond db.

.SY (Armourflex) termination - lightweight armour cable, out of the DOL starter (pre wired) down onto cable tray into a metal box, which is a pretend motor)

.Twin and CPC (2 way lighting circuit) Wiring in singles - In compartment trunking, feed the first switch, strappers, then the last switch, then upto the light.

.FP200 - out of the db, in compartment truking, into fused spur, out of stuffing gland, up the cable tray into the co detector connections.

.Compartmental trunking - all installed for you, lid is cut into little peices and numbered up once job is complete.

.Tray - installed for you, 2 lots

.DOL starter and motor circuit (starter pre-wired) singles 2.5mm into the starter, earth goes onto the casing, sy cable away to the motor box.

.External socket (to be RCD protected) spurred off the ring main, the socket above it. 3 sockets and a fused spur. make sure your fused spur you go in-and-out of the "supply" side. 32A RCBO

.CO2 detector - - out of the db, in compartment truking, into fused spur, out of stuffing gland, up the cable tray into the co detector connections. unswitched fused spur, p-clips up the tray, 6 or 16A mcb

.Thermostat - pre wired, just plugs in. Once you have wired your s plan heating system.

.S Plan heating system - takea around 2hours to wire, using singles and flec cables thats already installed at one end. basically you get a nice wiring diagram, cant go wrong, its like dot to dot. Looks real hard but once you get into it, double check the numbers beofre you connect each end up.

.Solar panel - same as above, its fed off the heating system

.Earthing systems - 10mm gas and water from db, down tray to gas and water pipe, seletcr the two clamps provided, gas - before the branch. water - after the tap (bond)

Earth everything metal

.Data - first time i did, easy, remember to use bridge inside trunking, for segraration.

.Ring main - wired in singles, left hand side wall, 3 sockets, 1 spur 1 outdoor socket spurred off.


Inspection and testing

Inspection - take all covers off your job, do a visual on connections etc
. continutiy r1r2 method - all circuits
. gas and water, r2 method <0.05 max

ring main - end to ends, fig 8 crossover

.Insulation resistance
-spur off, co2 off, disconnect life from light, rcbo off and fly leads out
no actual motor there, but say you would disconnect if there was one there. 500V 1Mohm pass.

- main switch off, mcb on, isolator on (3phase skt), turn on everything. Global IR test accross everything (l1 to l2, l1 to l3 etc...). then go back and test load cable on contactor (sy), ring main 1 leg, two way switching.

.Polarity
-confirm polairty, incoming terminals, covers in place then power up, make sure mcbs and main switch is OFF.

.Ze - you can ask for this (enquiry) examiner will give you it, saves you tesing it. be aware as he may give you a high one, to see if you realise its too high for the system type, or when you add your r1+r2 togthr with it later, 1 ciricuit is generally too high - which you MUST note in the test sheets to pass.

.Zs - now add up your results like ive just mentioned, on site guide 2d pg 103. rcbo - generally too high.

pscc - you do this test, with him at hand.

.Phase rotation - just a simple plug in, on the motor and 3 phase socket (*** ARROW TO THE RIGHT = CORRECT) - if not swap to phases over with anytime remaining and retest.

.RCD test, 3 test, 1/2, x 1 x 5, then a functional test

Fault Finding

Quite tricky - 7 faults. I think you need 4 or 5 for a pass.
Always 2 faults on the heating, 1 on the bonding conductor, 1 on the ring main, last 3 random.

- short circuit, open cirucit, cross polarity. but you may have a high resistance on the bonding conductor.

Online Exam

nothing to worry about to be honest, especially if youve just finished college. you get the onsite guide, the regs, building regs, and inspection and testing book. to be honest you should only need the book a few times. 30 questions, 21 marks needed to pass.

health and safety questions, a few on system types and testing etc...

once you have finished you should recieve your results within a few days, via email.
 
As above, usually supplied a plug in adaptor. Note to OP its Zs for the circuits not Ze...just saying.

I hadn't seen the 3phase plug adapters till i googled it then, which clears that up. As for the Ze thing, i think my brain is frazzled.
 
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What's the difference between reference method E & F? as both are 'in free air or on a perforated cable tray'

Also at what point is the tray deemed to be perforated? As when I've used it, it's always had SOME holes, but some tray has had more then others.
 
There is a requirement for the holes to occupy a minimum percentage of the surface area.
There is a similar spec for ladder rack too

Is the spec in BS7671? or else where I've tried looking for info on what would be deemed as perforated but have had no success. As at least the the SWA, SY and FP200 are installed on tray I wanted to make sure I knew the correct reference methods before I went in.
 
I think it would be fair to expect the cable tray to be of the correct spec.

The spec will ultimately be found in the relevant British standard, so any tray made to the BS will be fine
 
When Testing the installation would i just test up to the FCU for the heating? as all the control equipment is sensitive and i would need to disconnect most of it to avoid damaging it.
 

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