An ingenious solution.... please.

[hightower]

I'm replacing the lights in my office as a trial for LED replacements. Current lights are surface mount twin 6-foot florescents. The lights I'm trialling are these: http://redarrowtrading.com/media/cu...45 - LIN440W-45 - LIN550W-45 - LIN660W-45.pdf

I've worked with them before in a different situation and was impressed, but now I need to think up a solution for connecting them. The current wiring terminates within the fluorescent enclosure as expected. These new LED fittings are a sealed unit with a tail to connect to the supply.

I've got no access from above the ceiling, so my thoughts are to fit in a slimline Wago/Click/Other connector block/box, cut a bit more of a hole out the ceiling, and tuck up above, installing the light over the hole and making it look neat.

However, I don't want to open the ceiling up if I don't have to, so seeking for ideas here. I don't fancy having a junction box to the side of every light, and there's only about a 13mm gap to hide anything behind the fitting itself.

Another idea I had is to create a 2" platform (out of ply) to sit the lights off the ceiling a bit and give it room for a wago box to sit on top of the fitting, mostly out of sight.

Photos to come.

 

[Toneyz]

Klick ceiling rose.

 

[happysteve]

Thanks for wago suggestion - I can see your point totally but it feels a bit cowboy ish.

Funnily enough, that was going through my mind as I was writing the suggestion. I was actually wrinkling my nose at the time, shaking my head a little.

 

[LankyWill]

I would use gregs and re locate the rose to the side of the light. If not you could batten it out to accommodate a wago light box. I think your being pedantic about wago's resting on top of the fitting.

 

[ipf]

led battens...?

 

[hightower]

I like the round dry line box idea but would still like a cover on like a blanking plate with a hole drilled for the flex to go through.

I thought it if I had to have a box at the side of each light the click ones that plug might look best.

I'm gonna have a play about with some of your ideas today and see which work/look best. I'll be back.

 

[Richard Burns]

These abysmally horrible junction boxes would fit in the space you have, if you find a source for them then once you have your supply could you burn down the supplier so that no more could be made! you are sorted.

 

[hightower]

Well, lo and behold, I took the first fitting down and what do I see? A metal conduit box behind the ceiling that the wires come out of. Perfect, gives me room to terminate and with the fitting in place my IP ratings are intact. Happy days.

Thanks for all your responses.

 

[Octopus]

I would use gregs and re locate the rose to the side of the light. If not you could batten it out to accommodate a wago light box. I think your being pedantic about wago's resting on top of the fitting.

Greg's the bakers?

 

[LankyWill]

Greg's the bakers?

It's what the old boys call click roses, got think about Pete and Tel.

 

[snowhead]

It's what the old boys call click roses, got think about Pete and Tel.

So Greggs sell Roses now?

 

[Brummiesparky]

What about using conduit boxes

 

[EbolaSideRoom]

As these lights are for a trial and you're set on a particular sealed unit HT I'd be inclined to fit a ceiling rose where the wiring comes through the ceiling and connect the flex there, you could reposition the new fittings slightly or use hook plates and very short lengths of jack chain to give clearance.

That'd be my solution, if the ceiling will allow.

 

[EbolaSideRoom]

Is the fitting wide enough to cover a round dry line box?

Scolmore Click WA108P Circular Dry Lining Fastafix Cavity Box for Pendants, Ceiling Roses and Conduit Boxes 35mm - Wiring Accessories - Electrical - https://www.powersaver.co.uk/electrical/wiring-accessories/scolmore-click-wa108p-circular-dry-lining-fastafix-cavity-box-for-pendants-ceiling-roses-and-conduit-boxes-35mm.html

No-ones ever found a Dryline Architrave box have they?

This was my first thought, if there isn't room for a ceiling rose as suggested below.

And no, I've never come across a dry lining architrave box. It'd be handy....

 

[EbolaSideRoom]

These abysmally horrible junction boxes would fit in the space you have, if you find a source for them then once you have your supply could you burn down the supplier so that no more could be made! you are sorted.

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No one should use these.