another "what codes?" question :)

[brman]

I few scenarios for which I'd be interested in views what codes to apply......

1) Main bonding is jointed with a choc block in an inaccessible place.
I was going to go with a C3 but not so sure....

2) Main bonding is not continuous from the water to gas. (i.e. one cable to water, separate cable linking water to gas)
as above...

3) Fuse cover not present on a 3036 wylex board.
No direct contact possible with live conductors so I would assume a C2?

4) Immersion heater not on its own circuit and supplied from a plug/socket. Circuit is shared with a water pump.
C3?

 

[Octopus]

1. C3
2. no code
3. no code (I assume you only mean the fuse cover)
4. no code

 

[telectrix]

disagree in no.3 . try poking a bare bit of bare 2.5mm in the hole ( top or bottom ) of the fuse holder. code 2 IMO.

 

[needasparks]

Not sure if you mean the fuse cover or arc shield, if the latter C2 for me. Think i would put C2 on the chock block as you have not inspected it if you could not get to it and mention the others as an observation only. but thats me. TBH none of them are dangerousas they are but i like to cover what could happen within the time i put down for the next inspection. I just like to give people the information they are paying for rather than the mot on the day view, some may think different but its a judgement call like most you find on these inspections.

 

[yellowvanman]

disagree in no.3 . try poking a bare bit of bare 2.5mm in the hole ( top or bottom ) of the fuse holder. code 2 IMO.

It does depend if its easily accessible or not. IP4X if easily accessible (C3), IP2X if not so easily accessible (no code)

If anybody pokes a bit of bare 2.5mm in a hole of a fuse holder they deserve all they get!

 

[brman]

So the "no codes" are on the basis that, while they might be a departure from the regs, they don't need sorting. Is that correct?

By fuse cover I mean the cover (held by a single screw, middle-top) that needs removing before accessing fuses. As telectrix said I was assuming a C2 as you can access the fusewire through the hole in the top and there is also a chance the fuse could be knocked out, exposing the contacts behind. I guess I should also have mentioned the CU is in the back of a kitchen cupboard so vulnerable to having junk piled around it.

As it happens the main bonding is only 4mm so is getting a C2 anyway but I was curious what you would say about the other issues on their own.

 

[needasparks]

I don't think it hurts to write everything you see down as at least an observation and as mentioned in another post add a photo of it.
Then anyone behind you later may be then aware if any changes are made, In the points you have mentioned though you have to be blind not to see them but it will always confuse mr Electrical Trainee which is always worth the try. lol

 

[brman]

I don't think it hurts to write everything you see down as at least an observation and as mentioned in another post add a photo of it.
Then anyone behind you later may be then aware if any changes are made, In the points you have mentioned though you have to be blind not to see them but it will always confuse mr Electrical Trainee which is always worth the try. lol

Absolutely, I'd rather put something down even if it is just an observation and I have tended to go for a higher (more serious) code if unsure but then I don't want to be accused of creating work by saying something needs fixing when it doesn't. Hence asking what you guys though.

With perhaps the exception of using C3 when no code is necessary it doesn't look like am too far wrong anyway.

 

[needasparks]

I would think the customer would know if you are work hunting by your explanation of findings, well a good customer would.
The whole point of the test is for their information and you need to cover yourself nowdays.
As always our job is policed from within and we all are no better than the worst job we do.

 

[Octopus]

I'd like an "O" catagory added to the EICR which would allow you to add simple observations.

 

[rattlehead85]

Normally removing the fuse shield on a 3036 board leaves part of the neutral bar exposed. As this is classed as a live part and would be accessible with objects this warrants a code 1 departure as set out in the best practice guide 4 issue 3.

 

[infinity]

No code for ccu it's the cover designed to come off while ccu is live to pull/ replace fuses!!

 

[rattlehead85]

No code for ccu it's the cover designed to come off while ccu is live to pull/ replace fuses!!

A cover which should be refixed after replacing a fuse under normal conditions not left open as was the case mentioned which would have left live parts visible and exposed therefore warranting a code 1 on the day the EICR was completed. Hopefully the person carrying out the inspection made this safe. i.e replacing the cover if available or sealing off any gaps leaving exposure.