Any ideas guys?

[mikedaspark]

Hello fellow sparkies!

I have a few questions for you if you wouldnt mind helping me.

Basically, im a qualified spark have been for 5 ish years now served my apprenticeship under the 16th edition.

The thing is, is ive been offered some work, quite a lot of it actually, i havent seen any contract yet so its still up in the air but ive been offered 22 new build houses to wire and test.

Obviously they need testing but im just wondering which is the best route to go down, i have a friend that says he will sign them off under his partp but not sure if this will work and if its totally legit im assuming not. So should i go and do partp? do i need to do my 2391? do i need to be a ltd company or can i carry on as self employed/sole trader.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

 

[Octopus]

A part P sparky can not notify your work.

 

[mikedaspark]

Thanks for clearing that up i didnt think it was legit so to speak.

So whats the best course of action then?

Thanks

 

[monkeyelectric]

If you get the contract you could just register with nic or one of the others and use a couple of the houses for assessment

 

[mikedaspark]

Do i need to be a ltd company to do that or as a sole trader?

Im not sure whats the contracts going to state yet but if there is any clauses then ill be going ltd to protect my own arse.

 

[Octopus]

Call Elecsa in the morning, get their "welcome pack" and as above if you've got the right quals do the work and use the first one as your assessment (the job hasn't got to be finished you can use one at first fix "level")

 

[Guest55]

do the properties require seperate electrical notification ?
would it be covered under the property developers building application ?
those are the questions i'd be asking before signing up with any scheme

 

[monkeyelectric]

You can do it as a sole trader, biff55 has a good point they could be covered under the planning permission, check that first

 

[Octopus]

Good point about the planning but if you are going to pursue this type of domestic work then Part P scheme membership would make sense

 

[joe-sims]

by the law you dont need any thing ... though if it goes ---- up you have to prove that you where capable of doing the job and what you have put is right... see if you can get in touch with the local NIC inspector or some thing and just ask him. he will tell you what is needed

 

[mikedaspark]

Right so seperate electrical notification?

Does that mean notifying the local council of work being done on the properties and wether this was covered in the builders application?

If it is covered what does that change?
If its not covered what does that change?

Ive done work in houses before but im more commercial, if im being honest i dont have a clue about paperwork etc so im going to have to get my head in books to catch up with regs and who i have to notify.

I dont really do much work in houses just odd bits, i work on the agency when work comes about which is very little these days.

The houses are going to total 44 altogether so there is a lot of money involved and i want to do it right, wether i carry on doing domestic is another matter, i may do the 44 and never touch another house i really dont know.

Thanks for the comments so far guys it really is a big help because i dont have a clue.

 

[FAA Greenie]

Are you working on your own buddy? 22 houses is a lot of work to wire and test, have you looked at a contract? If these houses are going up quick, you may find youself a little swamped both for time and contractual obligations. Be careful, you could end up doing them for nothing.

 

[mikedaspark]

Ive not seen any contracts yet. I have a couple of sparks mates that would be helping me. Just not sure if i can sign off new builds by only having part p

 

[mikedaspark]

bump

 

[kingeri]

You can't 'have' Part P. If you have your 17th Ed qual then you should have no difficulties in joining a scheme....this is an absolute must for domestic work. If these houses are going to be inspected by building control anyway, it will probably include the electrics, so your scheme membership might not be needed. As Biff has said, find this out before joining a scheme.

 

[ackbarthestar]

The thing is, is ive been offered some work, quite a lot of it actually, i havent seen any contract yet so its still up in the air but ive been offered 22 new build houses to wire and test.

and

Ive done work in houses before but im more commercial, if im being honest i dont have a clue about paperwork etc so im going to have to get my head in books to catch up with regs and who i have to notify.

I dont really do much work in houses just odd bits, i work on the agency when work comes about which is very little these days.

Contracts and planning is the way to go. As long as you're not desperate for work and can cover your losses for 6 months then this venture will be one very steep learning curve for you.

There are companies out there who specialize in new build contracts and have all the loop holes covered. They know how to provide the logistics to keep the job flowing smoothly; keep their materials costs down, provide trades persons at site when required. delivery and storage of materials; security of equipment, transport and materials.

But I think your biggest problem at the end of the day will be to actually make a profit .