Anyone aware of this!!!

[specs]

I'm going for ukip this time round, I want jobs/houses/hosp beds/school places/doc app's/benefit hand outs/pension payments/LEGAL AID/jail places/rehab centres / child benefit / tax rebates-allowances etc to go to british born and bred citizens who have themselves or parents who have paid into the system. We are being milked of some £55 million a day by the eu + what it costs us in handouts to our eu cousins who are already here ( employed or not ). they also claim back the tax paid whilst in this country if they stay less than twelve weeks ( average time of a refurb ) stay in polski for three months and then come back and start all over again.

 

[trev]

Does it not worry you that leaving the EU (much as I hate it) will cost an estimated (there's that word again) 4 million jobs?
Reform, don't resign!

 

[specs]

Does it not worry you that leaving the EU (much as I hate it) will cost an estimated (there's that word again) 4 million jobs?
Reform, don't resign!

all jobs that are occupied by eu migrants. we can do without the eu, but can the eu do without us, I don't think so.

 

[specs]

imagine this, all eu workers go home ( no jobs in there home country ) we would not need eu medical staff if all eu sick went home, we are building houses on our green belt to house eu workers, we employ eu builders to build them because they are cheap, where is the gain when our british builders are claiming benefits

 

[jaypp]

Wher e in the UK is this happening? In France you speak French, - nothing else will do. We should do the same.

What, speak French?!!:drunk:

 

[Adam W]

I've often thought introducing a token charge would help prevent abuse of 'free' services such as ambulances after working opposite where the local drunks hang out - guaranteed at around 10am every day an ambulance would be along after one of them passed out and hit their head on the kerb, then they'd refuse to go to hospital. If they'd had to pay, say £1 every time it might make them think twice, about getting off their heads and then about calling an ambulance just to add a bit of drama to their lives.
One problem with this is it cheapens the service - people will think they're covering the cost of the service when they're only paying a token amount. Another is ambulances would have to start carrying change, the homeless guy passed out in the alleyway isn't likely to have any money, and it goes against the ethos of the NHS when an injured person doesn't have any change on them, or only has 98p so the ambulance just drives off leaving them there.

I read a similar article in the Daily Mail which said treatment would still be free for certain groups such as the elderly, disabled, pregnant women 'and others' which suggested appointments would still be free for 'those that need it the most'.
These are the demographics that will visit GPs the most and therefore statistically most likely to miss an appointment - the elderly, disabled, pregnant mothers etc can miss a doctor's appointment just the same as anyone else and in fact would be more likely to if there were no consequences. The people hit by the charges would be people like me, when I visit the doctor once every few years, just in case I don't bother turning up after taking time off work unpaid. So just as many people would still miss appointments but those who generally turn up and have an ailment worth taking time off work for would be penalised.
A pharmacist once told me the majority of prescriptions go to people who get them for free - these are the people making an appointment for a prescription of 'free' paracetamol while the people who would have to pay £25 for an appointment would have to pay £8.05 for paracetamol which you can get for about 50p from a supermarket.

 

[ferg]

OK so GP's are to vote on something...

Shock horror!!!!

Forgive me if I don't drop dead through shock.

I'm sure GP's will still keep doing their jobs and we will all survive the experience.

 

[trev]

all jobs that are occupied by eu migrants. we can do without the eu, but can the eu do without us, I don't think so.

In the north east Nissan employ 5 thousand people directly, 20 thousand secondary jobs depend on that plant. Extrapolating that out means that 80 thousand tertiary jobs are dependent on it.
Nissan have said that they will pull out of the UK if we leave the EU because they will lose the duty free status that their cars currently attract.
Are you seriously suggesting that all these 105 thousand jobs are all done by EU migrants workers?
Now, multiply that number of jobs that will be lost by the number of foreign companies operating in the UK because of our membership of the EU.
Thats why I want reform.

 

[Octopus]

International companies set up in the UK because of employment laws, and our flexible workforce. I'm not sure all the established businesses would pull out - what concerns me is we need to continue attracting companies into the UK and that may cease if we pull out of the EU.

That said the economic data from the EU this week has been terrible (again) and there is no sign of a recovery.

If the Germans left the EU, and re-established their own currency, the Euro would fall through the floor and the German currency would get stronger and stronger - which in turn would stall the German economy.

So the Germans need to be part of the Euro but the big question is how long will they tolerate bailing out the poorer Southern states??

At a global level what I don't understand is why the Chinese currency is still "pegged" to the US dollar - the Chinese have so much in currency reserves their currency should appreciate in value, which would make their exports more expensive which would allow "other" countries to complete on a more level playing field.

 

[trev]

Privatise child protection services, Department for Education proposes | Society | The Guardian
Another reason for me to despise the tories.

 

[specs]

Privatise child protection services, Department for Education proposes | Society | The Guardian
Another reason for me to despise the tories.

I agree with you Trev, I also think that the nspcc should be a properly funded organisation not begging for donations on national television. I am beginning to become a political atheist. I also agree that the EU needs major reform , but I just cannot see it happening any time soon. Meanwhile we continue to pay £55 million a day + to an institution which continues to drive forward the idea of a single state of Europe regardless of what the people think or want.

 

[HappyHippyDad]

I've been a nurse for 14 years and 2 years ago (approx) a large number of NHS health service providers were transferred over to a 'social enterprise', basically they were privatised. 2 years ago I was told that I HAVE to accept this otherwise I would not be allowed to continue working where I was working. There are about 40 nurses/Health care assistants where I work and we were all in the same boat.

So I was forced to work as a private nurse (earning less -doing the same job). Of course they HAVE to have a 'consultation period' before the privatisation takes place, which basically means they listen to you and then do exactly as they want because they can.

The conservatives are slowly getting rid of the NHS bit by bit so that it doesn't really become noticed by the general public. One place that refused to be taken over was South Gloucestershire (Stroud), one man took 'them' (whoever 'they' are) to court and I think he has at least slowed the process down by a few years.

 

[trev]

Social enterprise my backside. The tories have always hated the NHS and Cameron is just continuing the work of St Margaret of Kesteven

 

[jaypp]

Possibly the end of the NHS as we know and free at the point of use. What are your thoughts on this?

GPs to vote on charging patients for appointments | Society | theguardian.com



http://www.change.org/en-GB/petitio...nd-of-fee-on-visits-to-a-general-practitioner

So, we (as a nation) pay for it already, but GP's are voting as to whether they can charge us again!!
Trev, I said before that 'taking to the streets' was probably unlikely but, I'm in!!

 

[UNG]

Does it not worry you that leaving the EU (much as I hate it) will cost an estimated (there's that word again) 4 million jobs?
Reform, don't resign!

I don't see leaving the EU is a problem for UK jobs. The bigger problem is for the EU will it exist with a £385+ million a week shortfall in revenue.

With the recent Euro elections it is clear that other countries are not that happy with the EU although the euro anti's remain a minority in the Euro parliament this is a growing minority and it is probably only a matter of time before something happens now whether that is reform or total collapse remains to be seen.

The Euro zone "club" has been expanded over the years by the unelected commissioners who seem to be hell bent on building a dictatorial empire and keeping themselves untouchable which is way beyond the original remit of a free trade zone between a small number of countries, this has resulted in countries welcomed in who IMO have little to put in but want to take a lot out and their population are allowed to invade without hindrance any member countries they wish to, this is a major thing that will ultimately kill the EU as the richer countries no longer see a benefit