just wondering if it might be an idea to have a forum on this. i just had to troll the net for a forum re. an electrical fault on missus's car. ended up on a renault forum, got the advice. basically, i had a good idea of what the fault was, but had no idea of where to access the faulty part. got it sorted, but glad dod not go to renault dealer. their price for the part only was ÂŁ90, 1 hour's labour @ÂŁ85 + VAT. i got the part (ebay) for ÂŁ24, and it took less than an hour to fit, once i knew where to find it.