Badger Culling

[Adam W]

Beatrix Potter has a lot to answer for!!!

That seems to be the crux of it - city dwellers who don't understand what's happening see the management of wildlife population as nasty farmers with personal vendettas against Mr Fox and Mr Badger.

Not so long ago there was a thread about speed limits. I said I didn't see why the blanket solution to road safety was simply to put up a sign and reduce the speed limit, and I was told the people who reduce the speed limits are professionals who know what they're doing and I should mind my own business.
It seems to me that this is one of those situations where the armchair activists should leave countryside issues to those who understand them and don't have their judgement clouded by the image of characters from childrens' books running around the woods.

 

[Rockingit]

That seems to be the crux of it - city dwellers who don't understand what's happening see the management of wildlife population as nasty farmers with personal vendettas against Mr Fox and Mr Badger.

Not so long ago there was a thread about speed limits. I said I didn't see why the blanket solution to road safety was simply to put up a sign and reduce the speed limit, and I was told the people who reduce the speed limits are professionals who know what they're doing and I should mind my own business.
It seems to me that this is one of those situations where the armchair activists should leave countryside issues to those who understand them and don't have their judgement clouded by the image of characters from childrens' books running around the woods.

Brave. But well said.

 

[Adam W]

Well it wouldn't be much of a debate if everyone just agreed with each other.

 

[GMES]

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[shanky887614]

That seems to be the crux of it - city dwellers who don't understand what's happening see the management of wildlife population as nasty farmers with personal vendettas against Mr Fox and Mr Badger.

Not so long ago there was a thread about speed limits. I said I didn't see why the blanket solution to road safety was simply to put up a sign and reduce the speed limit, and I was told the people who reduce the speed limits are professionals who know what they're doing and I should mind my own business.
It seems to me that this is one of those situations where the armchair activists should leave countryside issues to those who understand them and don't have their judgement clouded by the image of characters from childrens' books running around the woods.

nothing makes my blood boil more than people moaning saying hunting is wrong

they eat meat for gods sake, the only ones that imho are allowed to moan are vegans lol.

take my dear old gran, firmly against hunting but loves eating venison?

 

[Silly Sausage]

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Geordie reckons nowt'll stop her! :smilielol5:

 

[trev]

Shanky I'm happy to eat meat but I think the way veal is made is horrific, the same applies to paté dé fois gras.

 

[Silly Sausage]

Re Veal, I don't your fears apply in these more enlightened times.

 

[trev]

I also think that the non stunning methods of killing animals should not be allowed.

 

[shanky887614]

I also think that the non stunning methods of killing animals should not be allowed.

really?

stunning doesnt always work.

the only 100% guarentied method to bd humane is to gas them to put them to sleep.

i was watching farm to fork or whatever it was called and the stunning failed so they had to shoot them anyway

 

[trev]

Yes it doesn't always work but hanging them up by their back legs and slitting their throats while they're awake and aware is barbaric. From what I can make out stunning works in the vast majority of cases.

 

[shanky887614]

Yes it doesn't always work but hanging them up by their back legs and slitting their throats while they're awake and aware is barbaric. From what I can make out stunning works in the vast majority of cases.

i think your confusing it with hallal/jewish method.

normally captive bolt to the head or stunned with backup incase it fails.

 

[trev]

If I killed our dog by tw@ing him over the head with a shovel I could rightly expect to be dragged before a court on animal cruelty charges. Why is it ok to kill an another animal cruelly because of some bizarre requirement in an old book supposedly given to us by a bloke who lives in the sky?

 

[Adam W]

nothing makes my blood boil more than people moaning saying hunting is wrong

they eat meat for gods sake, the only ones that imho are allowed to moan are vegans lol.

take my dear old gran, firmly against hunting but loves eating venison?

Presumably she eats the venison which comes wrapped in plastic from the supermarket, not the flesh of Bambi's dead mother.

 

[trev]

i think your confusing it with hallal/jewish method.

normally captive bolt to the head or stunned with backup incase it fails.

I'm not confusing it with halal or kosher methods mate. That's exactly what I'm talking about, I think it's completely wrong that a practice which demands the animal is awake and aware while it bleeds to death while hanging by it's back legs or aspirates it's own blood is allowed because of the demands of an old book. No matter which old book it is.