Badger Culling

[jaypp]

I'm not confusing it with halal or kosher methods mate. That's exactly what I'm talking about, I think it's completely wrong that a practice which demands the animal is awake and aware while it bleeds to death while hanging by it's back legs or aspirates it's own blood is allowed because of the demands of an old book. No matter which old book it is.

Has anyone got a fatwa for a post on an electricians forum yet?:leaving:

 

[trev]

Has anyone got a fatwa for a post on an electricians forum yet?:leaving:

Not that I know of but I've probably got one for some of my questions on twitter on #askislamicstate
NB I'm not saying that only halal slaughter is wrong, I'm saying kosher methods are too.

 

[Guest111]

They get that anyhow, I for one would be happy to have no cows and import beef rather than slaughter Badgers which are only trying to survive like the rest of us, I have never met a poor farmer either, they all have range rover sports which cost 80k.

Hang on there mate,I take exception to that remark! For years farmers have had a raw deal,milk company's like Arla and Muller have been allowed to dictate milk prices to farmers,often with farmers making as little as 1p per litre on a pint.Given the amount of work involved in rearing cattle this is peanuts.I was and still am involved with a farm that produces and stores grain,we've had to be out at 3am recently to get grain harvested before it spoils due to the bad weather,when you see the invoices for the cost of agrochemicals,which run into many thousands then if there's a glut at harvest the price for your grain drops like a stone.My mate who owns the farm has just bought himself an A7 second hand,the first car he's had in years as all the money he's made in previous years has been reinvested into the farm.Farming is a 24/7 365 job,the cows still need milking on christmas day,the sheep still need feeding even in the worst snowy winters,and getting someone who you can trust to look after everything so you can have a holiday is nigh on impossible.
Take a look at real farmers on real farms in real life situations,I'm sure you'll change your opinion.

 

[Guest111]

I'm not confusing it with halal or kosher methods mate. That's exactly what I'm talking about, I think it's completely wrong that a practice which demands the animal is awake and aware while it bleeds to death while hanging by it's back legs or aspirates it's own blood is allowed because of the demands of an old book. No matter which old book it is.

Thank god for sanity Trev,my mate who is a well respected vet wrote an article on halal slaughter as part of an attempt to get it outlawed (at the government's behest),our spineless government hung him out to dry when the muslims started raving,the police were not interested when groups of them started hanging around outside his home,they even accused him of being racist when he said he felt intimidated and threatened by it all.

 

[Rockingit]

Mike......have to say that I'm with Phil on this. Yes, a successful farmer will show the fruits of his profit, the same as any business. Your assertion that 'all farmers' drive 80k range rovers is nonsense. If you'd have said instead that Farmers work every hour there is, in all weathers, doing hard hard physical labour, growing their businesses in a declining market, having a responsibility for managing the countryside that you were talking about earlier....etc....then I might be in agreement. But just to have some misplaced view that all farmers are silver-spooned conservatives that deserve a knock down is both flawed, unfair and downright ignorant.

 

[shanky887614]

Hang on there mate,I take exception to that remark! For years farmers have had a raw deal,milk company's like Arla and Muller have been allowed to dictate milk prices to farmers,often with farmers making as little as 1p per litre on a pint.Given the amount of work involved in rearing cattle this is peanuts.I was and still am involved with a farm that produces and stores grain,we've had to be out at 3am recently to get grain harvested before it spoils due to the bad weather,when you see the invoices for the cost of agrochemicals,which run into many thousands then if there's a glut at harvest the price for your grain drops like a stone.My mate who owns the farm has just bought himself an A7 second hand,the first car he's had in years as all the money he's made in previous years has been reinvested into the farm.Farming is a 24/7 365 job,the cows still need milking on christmas day,the sheep still need feeding even in the worst snowy winters,and getting someone who you can trust to look after everything so you can have a holiday is nigh on impossible.
Take a look at real farmers on real farms in real life situations,I'm sure you'll change your opinion.

was watching countryfile last night

one of the guys gets 2500 litres a year per cow and other farms get say 10,000 litres thats only £100 a year!!! at 1p a litre

 

[Guest77]

Well I haven't seen a farmer around here who doesn't drive a huge expensive 4x4 thats for sure, however phil and rock your point is taken and I am sure some farmers are struggling so I will take it all back.

 

[shanky887614]

Well I haven't seen a farmer around here who doesn't drive a huge expensive 4x4 thats for sure, however phil and rock your point is taken and I am sure some farmers are struggling so I will take it all back.

probably leased rather than bought out right.