Basics

[ben1980]

Hi all

Looking for some advice.
I've been working in the trades for 15 years as a carpenter/glazer/kitchen fitter..... but have always worked on site untill recently. To effectively offer a kitchen fitting I figure that I need to have some electrical skills. So i'm looking for advice on training and whether its possible without going for a full 3 years, just want the basics

Thanks Ben
(p.s as it stands I know nothing)

 

[IQ Electrical]

Hi all

Looking for some advice.
I've been working in the trades for 15 years as a carpenter/glazer/kitchen fitter..... but have always worked on site untill recently. To effectively offer a kitchen fitting I figure that I need to have some electrical skills. So i'm looking for advice on training and whether its possible without going for a full 3 years, just want the basics

Thanks Ben
(p.s as it stands I know nothing)

Is it not easier to find a good local electrician to work with on an 'as and when' basis?

You would need to take the required courses, pass the exams, then register with a competent persons scheme to be able to notify your electrical work to the Local Authority in accordance with Approved Document P.

 

[ben1980]

maybe but i was hoping to expand my skill set a little, I would only be extending circuits and wiring in appliances I guess. Obviously I take electricity works in peoples homes seriously. Is there a specific level I would need to reach to do this
Can you advise a course provider?

Thanks

 

[Dunc]

Is it not easier to find a good local electrician to work with on an 'as and when' basis?

You would need to take the required courses, pass the exams, then register with a competent persons scheme to be able to notify your electrical work to the Local Authority in accordance with Approved Document P.

IQ speaks a lot of sense. It'll cost quite a few thousand to gain the qualifications and sign up to a self certification scheme provider. You can still make good money subbing out the electrical work and putting a percentage on top of the sparks quote. I'm sure you won't be planning to do the gas work yourself so why are you considering getting the electrical qualifications?

 

[ben1980]

Thats the reason, don't want to have to deal with both gas and sparks and as I said I would like to build my skill set further.

So its part p or nothing then, no basic course for extending circuits and wiring appliances

Thanks again

 

[IQ Electrical]

Thats the reason, don't want to have to deal with both gas and sparks and as I said I would like to build my skill set further.

So its part p or nothing then, no basic course for extending circuits and wiring appliances

Thanks again

You'd still have to notify your work as it's in a kitchen, identified as higher risk.

The problem is, it's never as simple as extending a few circuits, then you end up getting an electrician to do the bits that exceed your defined scope, you're then back to square 1.

Of course you still have the option to do the courses, take the exams, buy all the books and test equipment and enroll on a scheme....

 

[Adam W]

There aren't really any concessions - you're either doing electrical work or you're not. The training time isn't reduced if you only want to do a bit of electrical work on a casual basis every now and then.
If you don't want to deal with 2 different people you could sub it out to someone who does both.

 

[ben1980]

I know your right I just hate relying on other people to turn up and slowing me down
Thanks

 

[telectrix]

short course... £2000, test equipment..... £1000, regs & books...... £400, scheme membership..... £500, practical experience...... priceless. for everything else there's always

MASTER SPARK.

 

[1shortcircuit]

Have a little read here :thumbsup

There is now a lot more to it than just extending a few cables using connector blocks and insulation tape plastered into the wall

 

[telectrix]

Have a little read here :thumbsup

There is now a lot more to it than just extending a few cables using connector blocks and insulation tape plastered into the wall

you forgot to mention running the cable at 45deg. to save a foot of 2.5mm ( at £60 a drum , soon save enough for a pint or three )

 

[ben1980]

I appreciate that there is more to it than that, I have worked in the trades for a long time, courses in them selves aren't enough, experience is essential, no one job is going to be the same as another.I'm just looking for a place to start

 

[DurhamSparky]

just google part p courses!! find a provider close to you and away you go!

ideally try and get a local college or training association as they tend to be less on the pushy pushy when it comes to money and normally deliver substantially better training!

to do what your suggesting
look for a provider offering teh following

EAL VRQ 2 Part P
17ht Edition city and Guilds 2382
inspection and testing level 2 2392