Bit rusty on regs.

[Dave OCD]

TBH, i'd have cabled direct from box to box horizontally, saves the surface cables below worktop. kiychen fitter will need to notch his vertical weetabix boards.

Well I'm all for keeping the chasing (hard work and mess] to a minimum Tel and think there may be less risk of future damage to the cabling as people don't think of cables being in the wall horizontally between sockets and like fitting daft gadgets to the walls. :smile5:

 

[Dave OCD]

The pipe that the cable is tight against is the heating feed from the boiler, so as hot as they get.

The big question is does it meet the regs? Or do I have cause for complaint.

Thanks for your help people.

There's a requirement for installation methods to be suitable for 'the location and external influences' and also segregation between electrical and non-electrical services so what he's done is in contravention of BS7671.

 

[Leesparkykent]

Well I'm all for keeping the chasing (hard work and mess] to a minimum Tel and think there may be less risk of future damage to the cabling as people don't think of cables being in the wall horizontally between sockets and like fitting daft gadgets to the walls. :smile5:

And less making good for the customer.

 

[telectrix]

trhere's merit in both methods. however those people that can't think cables can run horiziontally between accessories will almost cedrtainly have no conception of them running vertically either, most think sockets are on wi-fi anyway.

 

[Dave OCD]

And less making good for the customer.

Exactly Lee,I forgot that bit. :icon12:

 

[malcolmsanford]

it's against regs. can't rem the reg. but it's detrimental influences.

Just for you mate 522.2.2

 

[Gavin Bear]

Thanks Malcom, I'm just composing an email and that will help.
This 'sparky' is working for an ECA/ELECSA registered firm!!

 

[malcolmsanford]

Thanks Malcom, I'm just composing an email and that will help.
This 'sparky' is working for an ECA/ELECSA registered firm!!

There is a note to this reg

Heat from external sources may be radiated, conducted or convected eg

-from hot water systems

So I would quote the regulation and that note.

ECA/ELECSA registered firm!! unfortunately in todays trade that don't mean a great deal

 

[ruston]

There is a note to this reg

Heat from external sources may be radiated, conducted or convected eg

-from hot water systems

So I would quote the regulation and that note.

ECA/ELECSA registered firm!! unfortunately in todays trade that don't mean a great deal

It does mean that at least they should be aware of the regs and good workmanship.
That makes it even worse that they have deliberately ignored the guidance .

 

[malcolmsanford]

Well you would think so Rush, but even getting past the fact that the sparks wasn't aware of this regulation, the standard of workmanship is pretty poor to be honest, and that is from a contractor that is a registered company, or supposedly!!

It wouldn't be the first time "dodgy" credentials are used. But if it is a bona fide company then it is a sad reflection on our trade.

 

[Gavin Bear]

I've checked the main contractors are registered.
And I've asked for the electricians details. Still waiting :-(

 

[ruston]

Yes , sadly you are right.

 

[malcolmsanford]

We can raise the old chestnut (Very Christmasy!!) about qualifications and what is needed to become a member of certain organisations. But I would hate to think that a properly trained sparks would have done that.

I was taught that if anyone asked "who did that" you should always be able to say "That it was me", and never say "Don't know it is bad isn't it"

 

[ruston]

We can raise the old chestnut (Very Christmasy!!) about qualifications and what is needed to become a member of certain organisations. But I would hate to think that a properly trained sparks would have done that.

I was taught that if anyone asked "who did that" you should always be able to say "That it was me", and never say "Don't know it is bad isn't it"

My mates Father has a different expression for that , but I can't say it on here. The tone of the exclamation indicated approval or disapproval lol.

 

[Gavin Bear]

I was IEEIE and Engineering Council (shows my age) registered following my apprenticeship. But always saw niceic, eca, etc. as a money making exercise as opposed to a quality and safety organisation.

And for the life of me I still cannot work out how legally enforceable measures can be written when the rules are not publicly available! The 'regs' should be FREE !