Boiler spur.

[Lioned]

What is prefered ? Wired into a fused spur or 13amp plug top into an unswitched socket.Also should it all be rcd protected being a heating circuit ?

 

[Deleted member 26818]

Either is acceptable.
RCD protection is not required, unless the cables are concealed in walls and there is no other additional protection.

 

[cagedanimal2010]

spin on top form as always!!!beat me too it!
Danny

 

[Hawk81]

agree with above

 

[Lioned]

Thanks lads settled an argument for me.Always prefered plug top and unswitched socket but if socket is available for something else ,ie if boiler unplugged and then socket used for portable appliance then it would need rcd protrection wouldn't it ?
Go to do one next week and plumber wants unswitched socket but boiler is in the garage and could be unplugged and used for hoover to clean car or something ?

 

[cagedanimal2010]

Thanks lads settled an argument for me.Always prefered plug top and unswitched socket but if socket is available for something else ,ie if boiler unplugged and then socket used for portable appliance then it would need rcd protrection wouldn't it ?
Go to do one next week and plumber wants unswitched socket but boiler is in the garage and could be unplugged and used for hoover to clean car or something ?

Get your labelling machine out "boiler supply only"

Danny

 

[Deleted member 26818]

RCD protection is required for socket-outlets intended for general use by ordinary persons, and those used to supply mobile equipment outdoors.
As such, a socket-outlet that is intended to supply a specific item of equipment, such as a boiler, does not require RCD protection.
However, if the socket-outlet is to be used to supply mobile equipment outdoors, then it will require RCD protection.
It will be up to you to decide. It may be that there is another socket-outlet in the garage that is used.
Placing a lable on the socket-outlet, stating boiler supply only, or not for equipment used outdoors, may not be considered a satisfactory solution, if there is an acident and someone has ignored the lable.

 

[cagedanimal2010]

im only throwing options out there, and you could say that for all items of specific items of equipment, anyone can unplug and put in the mower. i would fit a switched fuse spur, to limit any hassle, regardless of what pipe man says!!

Danny

 

[Lioned]

Maybe best to fit an rcd socket,powerbreaker,or similiar as the fuse box isnt protected,what do you think ?

 

[cagedanimal2010]

still not keen on a sfs???

 

[Lioned]

Plumbers seem to have developed this phobia to anything with a switch on it.Are people really that silly to switch the boiler off then moan about not having hot water,whats the chances of that ?
If i fit an unswitched fused spur then the only way they can isolate is to turn off the ground floor power and bugger up the afternoon showing of neighbours.
As far as i know there are no plumbing/gas safety regs saying you cant have a switched fused spur,anyone know different ?

 

[cagedanimal2010]

not at all, well as far as i know, sfs with label on! cant really go wrong, theres only so much you can do for the customer otherwise you will have to move in with them. lol!!

Danny

 

[Engineer54]

A labeled switched fused spur unit every time for boiler supply control, ...It's a no brainer as far as i'm concerned, and can in certain circumstances save an RCBO/RCD...

 

[mark_]

I cant see why anyone would want a boiler connected via plug top and unsw socket. Sw spur every time for us.

 

[cagedanimal2010]

I cant see why anyone would want a boiler connected via plug top and unsw socket. Sw spur every time for us.

Some people do things differently, not wrong just different.

Danny