boiler supply taken from cooker circuit

[damien1]

hi guys ive just bein to a flat to quote a price for wiring a electric cooker in
when i got their i found that the boiler supply had been taken off the cooker circuit so i said i couldnt wire the cooker in as it needs to be on its own circuit so ide after remove the boiler supply

anyway the women as just bought the flat but not been given any test certificates to say that wiring is electricaly sound

i thought it was ilegal to sell any property with out the test certificates so is this women gonna be able to complain and get her wiring sorted by who ever she bought the flat from

how am i able to advice this women

thanks for your help

 

[malcolmsanford]

No there is no legislation that requires a property sale to have a PIR. It was always hoped that the HIP's would have made this a necessity but they have now been scrapped. What normally gets done is when a surveyor does his/her report they normally remark on the electrical installation and if there is something they consider wrong, the mortgage company could ask for a PIR to be completed.

Often as not, and espicially in this current market things tend to get overlooked to process a sale.

 

[damien1]

thanks for your advice

so if i was to remove the supply to the boiler does the boiler after be on its own circuit the consumer unit is a 16 edition with no rcds it seems a bit silly to after change the consumer unit

just for the sake of wiring a cooker in

 

[malcolmsanford]

Is this a brand new cooker, if it is does the manufacter recommend it as it's own dedicated supply? A boiler does not need it's own dedicated supply, often as not they plug into a local socket.

 

[damien1]

it is a brand new cooker rated at 9kw so needs its own supply the supply cable is 10mm with a 40amp mcb so im fine with that

would it be perfectly fine to spur off the ring main with a fcu for the boiler

 

[malcolmsanford]

Perfectly fine to do that, or if it's on a plug top just plug it in.

 

[damien1]

cheers

 

[Southern Spark]

Change the cooker isolator to a double with a socket and fit a plug top to the boiler supply.

 

[telectrix]

surely though , the cooker needs to be either RCD or RCBO protected. unless the cable is all surface. and if a socket outlet incorporated, definitely RCD.

 

[DurhamSparky]

surely though , the cooker needs to be either RCD or RCBO protected. unless the cable is all surface. and if a socket outlet incorporated, definitely RCD

existing supply! done to 16th! (probz on RCD side any way!)

 

[High Tower]

Cooker is not a socket outlet leass than 32A and not a special location, circuit in excess of 32A so a disconnection time of 5s so RCD is not required. if it was done under the 16th then it wouldnt have needed a RCd for burried cables either.

Absolute madness if u ask me, that why i always RCD them

 

[telectrix]

existing supply! done to 16th! (probz on RCD side any way!)

op said ( post3) "no rcd"

 

[telectrix]

Cooker is not a socket outlet leass than 32A and not a special location, circuit in excess of 32A so a disconnection time of 5s so RCD is not required. if it was done under the 16th then it wouldnt have needed a RCd for burried cables either.

Absolute madness if u ask me, that why i always RCD them

yes, the circuit is >32A but a socket outlet is 13A . which applies?

 

[ian1511]

sorry to change subject,but noticed ur location is saudi(malcom),am looking at working abroad any advice of how to do this?

 

[DurhamSparky]

seen as your only installing the cooker its a 1 for 1 replacement if existing supply cable is there!!

fuse boiler down and place on 13a fuse spur from ring or cooker circuit!??!!