Bonding at sinks?

[SSE]

What is the actual requirement for this now? Quite often I see a 6mm bond between cold and hot pipes in a bathroom sink, en-suite sink & kitchen sink all in the same house, then others you go into only have it at the pipework hot to cold where the main water service earth is? This is in houses that don't have RCD protection on all circuits ie not 17th edition boards. If I come across this in a property and for example I was installing a new circuit would have to bond all the hot to cold pipes underneath the sinks?

 

[Engineer54]

This was the requirements of previous Reg's, so No you would not have to maintain supplementary bonding at sinks, not if you are upgrading to the 17th with RCD protection. But you don't have to remove these bonds either, RCD protected or not!!

 

[Amp David]

Surely if you're doing work in these places then you are upto date with the currents regs surely?

If you are then its easy peasy, isn't it???

 

[danzor]

Sink bonding was in the 15th wasn't it?

 

[Amp David]

Blast from t'past

 

[SSE]

This was the requirements of previous Reg's, so No you would not have to maintain supplementary bonding at sinks, not if you are upgrading to the 17th with RCD protection. But you don't have to remove these bonds either, RCD protected or not!!

But some of the properties I've worked at the board may have no RCD protection but the circuit we're working on is brought up to RCD protection by use of RCBO etc

Surely if you're doing work in these places then you are upto date with the currents regs surely?

If you are then its easy peasy, isn't it???

When your constantly working under different tradesman like I am who all seem to have different opinions it gets a tad confusing. Especially when two pretty experienced tradesmen are telling you one thing different to the other! One of the guys if the board has no RCD ptotection apart from our circuit he bonds all the sinks hot to cold but the other guy in the same situation says theres no need!

 

[Amp David]

Well why listen to any other trades. Its your neck on the line with the work you do, so make it comply and you'll be OK.

Workunder the different trades eveyday myself, and sparkies of a different age to myself, but no matter what they say i do what I do will comply

 

[SSE]

Well why listen to any other trades. Its your neck on the line with the work you do, so make it comply and you'll be OK.

Workunder the different trades eveyday myself, and sparkies of a different age to myself, but no matter what they say i do what I do will comply

Yeah that's why I was asking the question to clarify what id required. Obviously I want all my work to comply and wouldn't want to be taking any shortcuts etc

 

[GLENNSPARK]

well its like on a periodic innit.....if supplementary bonding is in place in a special location (a bathroom for instance) and the board feeding the circuit has no RCD protection then the circuit is a 4 ....take away the supplementary bonding...then its a 2....as is the absence of the supplementary bonding.....

 

[Amp David]

New work is done to 17th edition, so do as per 17 th edition and not as the decorator says lol

 

[SSE]

New work is done to 17th edition, so do as per 17 th edition and not as the decorator says lol

And I'd listen to a decorator why?!

 

[Amp David]

Other trades you say.

If your doning any works within a kitchen the 'part p' comes into it unfortunately, in which case you're compliant with the 17th???

 

[GLENNSPARK]

And I'd listen to a decorator why?!

well a kitchen fitter once started telling me this n that "about electrics"..lol....told him to get some more boxes made up..oops sorry thats units..lol.....

 

[SSE]

Other trades you say.

If your doning any works within a kitchen the 'part p' comes into it unfortunately, in which case you're compliant with the 17th???

I said under tradesmen, meaning under different electricians not other trades, lol.

 

[Amp David]

OK then who signing it off?

If its youmake sure it complies, if its one of your budies, do the work then let them sign for it.

Happy Days!