Bonding Help

[Hamez]

Hi all,

I have googled this but I cant find a straight answer.

I am currently wiring a new build house.
All of the pipe work is plastic including the incoming supply except a few meters of copper pipe leaving the amptec boiler. (plumber says this is because the plastic pipes would melt)
Do these pipes need to be bonded?

Thanks

 

[Bobster]

Test them

 

[SparkyAndGeorge]

There is no requirement to bond the short section of visible copper if the rest of the house has been piped in plastic. However it is good practice to provide a bonding connection anyway for future use ie. if the pipes do ever get changed for copper.

 

[Midwest]

Test them

Technically you are right of course, but if the whole property is plastic, what's the point?

And just in case someone mentions, water is a poor conductor of electricity; (first page, and it should read 115,000 not 115.000)
http://www.plasticpipesgroup.com/media/1036/earthbonding.pdf

 

[Midwest]

However it is good practice to provide a bonding connection anyway for future use ie. if the pipes do ever get changed for copper.

Could you expand on that?

 

[Midwest]

Test them

Technically you are right of course, but if the whole property is plastic, what's the point?

And just in case someone mentions, water is a poor conductor of electricity; (first page, and it should read 115,000 not 115.000)
http://www.plasticpipesgroup.com/media/1036/earthbonding.pdf

 

[Bobster]

Technically you are right of course, but if the whole property is plastic, what's the point?

And just in case someone mentions, water is a poor conductor of electricity; (first page, and it should read 115,000 not 115.000)
http://www.plasticpipesgroup.com/media/1036/earthbonding.pdf

Experience and common sense would normally cover this.

However the OP is asking the question, suggesting he is lacking in experience.

 

[Midwest]

Fair enough.

 

[Leesparkykent]

every new build I do I always run in a bonding conductor to the water even though the incoming is plastic... I've lost count the amount of hours I've spent arguing with different meter fitters about it. If he moans it gets connected so the meter gets put on and as soon as he's gone it gets disconnected again.

 

[Midwest]

every new build I do I always run in a bonding conductor to the water even though the incoming is plastic... I've lost count the amount of hours I've spent arguing with different meter fitters about it. If he moans it gets connected so the meter gets put on and as soon as he's gone it gets disconnected again.

I would agree, but if the internal pipework is plastic?

Whilst researching this tedious subject, I came across this revolutionary solution; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGgxDn5U9Us

 

[Leesparkykent]

I would agree, but if the internal pipework is plastic?

Whilst researching this tedious subject, I came across this revolutionary solution; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGgxDn5U9Us

haha what a pile of carp.

 

[Wes1000]

That clamp looks a bit carp and did I see him bond all the pipes in a row just below the great big steel plate they all connect to?? A waste of fittings I think.

 

[Hamez]

Thanks for the replies, I didn't think it needed bonded but I wanted to double check as I like to leave my jobs knowing they are correct.

 

[mattg4321]

Typical plumbers. How many times have I seen pipes below a boiler 'bonded' like that when they all connect into a steel plate a few cm above. That's what they get taught on their gas course. Ridiculous really.

That product looks terrible too and they guy in the video is rough as.

 

[Simonslimline]

Thanks for the replies, I didn't think it needed bonded but I wanted to double check as I like to leave my jobs knowing they are correct.

Are you aware of how to test if the pipework is extraneous? For future i guess!