Brightest GU10 LED - or maybe something else ?

[Viktor]

Hi All,

I'm not an electrician but trying to research the following issue for our lighting needs :

I am replacing GU10 halogen lights with LED spotlight but have found the following problem :

I don't want to save electricity I want a much brighter living room/kitchen.

In theory since all the sockets rated 40watts I think I could get a 40 watt LED bulb that would be multiples brighter but so far the best I've found is only 9 watts and 850 lumens.

So the questions is if there's any brighter GU10 bulb out there? In theory a 27 watts LED could be around 2550 Lumen but I can't find anything online.


Floorstanding lights have this amazing 4000 lumen bulb, 3 of those would be great for our space but they look terrible/don't fit the style of the rooms and of course I couldn't put any of those in the middle of the kitchen.



Any comments, suggestions or ideas are welcome.


Thanks,
Viktor

 

[dmxtothemax]

Are you limited by size ?
most larger LED lamps are physically large
What are your limiting factors ?

 

[Viktor]

I have GU10 sockets installed so that's pretty much it - I was wondering if brighter LEDs exist at all? Everybody seems to want to sawe power by searching for the equivalent of say a 50w halogen bulb, i want to go the other way - I'm looking for a usper bright LED that has a similar consumption to regular bulbs.


Am I making sense ?

 

[Octopus]

There is no such thing as a 50 w led gu10

Look at the lumens output and remember that cool white will be brighter than warm white.

 

[Viktor]

That's what I'm doing - so far what i've found the best one is 850 lumens - i have ordered it so soon can be tested but I keep searching if there's any brighter out there ?

 

[Phil Thompson]

I have 6x7w Led in place of 6x50w halogens preciously. They are far far brighter than what I had originally. Even during daytime they brighten the place.

Not sure the lumen output on them, but I think the 5W Bell gu10 I use for jobs are pretty bright @350 lumens. So those 850 lumen ones are gonna be extremely bright I’d imagine.

 

[Viktor]

I'd be looking for 3 x 4000 lumens but those would be floor standing floodlights and they would look ridiculous in our living room but I can't place 15 LEDs as I have only 6 sockets so i'm looking for the brightest LED possible, around 2000 would be nice.

I've used 350 lumen lights before and they are extremely dark, you probably can't read a book properly by that output.

 

[Phil Thompson]

You must be joking or taking the urine, I switched 3x50w halogen last week for a guy, to those lamps I said. With 350 lumens each, that night got this text.

“Lights are amazing dude need sun glasses”

 

[Viktor]

No I'm not joking - I have only 6 GU10 sockets in a large kitchen-living room space - it's very long and room, about 13 meters that is about 4.5 - 5 meters wide in one and and narrows down to zero with a curved wall on the outer side.


In this space the 6 x GU10 halogens worth about zero so i'm replacing them normal LEDs but they're still pretty dim to my taste.

I have seen 4000 lumen lights in John Lewis, the kind the lights your ceiling and provides a nice flood in the room but because of the shape I'd need 3 of those = 12,000 Lumens total but they're ugly and as I wrote before I can't put one in the middle of the kitchen so I'm looking for some kick---- super bright LEDs, so far the best I've found is 850 lumens.


I'm simply wondering if there's any better/brighter or if there's any other solution that solves my problem ?

 

[Phil Thompson]

Add more GU10 lights into the space between the existing gu10 lights.

 

[Viktor]

I can't add lights, I need to work what I've got sockets.

 

[dmxtothemax]

I don't think you will get much more out of a GU10 configeration.
The main limitation is heat dissipation.
The bigger the LED light the more heat it has to dissipate.
Thus the shell is bigger to dissipate more heat.
I have seen 3000 lumen Led bulbs
But their big, about the size of an 300w incandesant bulb.

 

[Rpa07]

Wait until you get the 9watt and test that - as has been said, for the size of a GU10 9 Watts 850 lumen is bright.
As Murdoch said change the ‘k’ colour from 2700k halogen(warm white) to cool white 4000k as this may suit you better. 6000k colour is a blueish daylight and doesn’t suit a lot of places.
Wait to test the 9watt

 

[Cadgey123]

I think you need to come to the realisation that these little GU10 lamps will not generate this kind of lumin output you desire without adding extra fittings in.

 

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