btec electrical installation

[campo]

Evening all,

Just after some advice please. I've completed a few short courses (eal level 2 domestic installer, 17th ed. and 2391) and been with elecsa for about 6 years.

I saw the btec ad. level 3 electrical installation and thought it might help increase my knowledge and make my cv look better if I wanted to do anything in this area in the future.

The course is though distance learning which would suit me as I have 2 young boys.

Does anyone know if this course is any good or even reconised by any one?

Also if it is worth doing who is it worth doing with?

Thank you, campo.

 

[TJ Anderson]

Erm, no it won't. The 2397 was created by the scams as a fast track way to give a QS an NVQ3. The fact is though, it is not the industry recognised 2357.

Having a 2397 on your CV just shows up as Electrical Trainee to anyone who knows anything about electrical qualifications.

In response to the OP; campo, you currently don't posses any meaningful or core qualification anyway, so shouldn't be working on your own without supervision. If you want to become a qualified electrician, then the C&G 2357 is the only way forward. That means three years at college (nights or days), whilst you complete a full apprenticeship working under the supervision of those who are skilled enough to teach you.

I would start checking out local state funded colleges as they will be the best place to move forward.

I wouldn't be considering distance learning as this will only add more non-qualifications to your current list of non-qualifications. You'll end up thousands poorer with nothing to show for it other than a piece of A4 sized bog roll with a shiny sticker on it.

Sorry OP!! Thank you D Skelton for correcting me. You are dead right there, got my 2397 & 2357 mixed up. So many courses now. I thought he was referring to NVQ3 which is of course 2357 & not 2397. Dud info, sorry bud.

 

[D Skelton]

Sorry OP!! Thank you D Skelton for correcting me. You are dead right there, got my 2397 & 2357 mixed up. So many courses now. I thought he was referring to NVQ3 which is of course 2357 & not 2397. Dud info, sorry bud.

Your confusion could be forgiven, the snides at the scams deliberately made them look and sound similar. They are both technically NVQ3s, the difference being that the 2397 is an NVQ3 certificate and takes weeks to complete and the 2357 is an NVQ3 advanced diploma which takes years. The 2357 is the industry recognised qualification, the 2397 was cooked up as a loophole.

You have to search long and hard to spot the difference, so much so that a panel of a dozen or so politicians were duped into thinking that they were the same thing!

 

[shanky887614]

Your confusion could be forgiven, the snides at the scams deliberately made them look and sound similar. They are both technically NVQ3s, the difference being that the 2397 is an NVQ3 certificate and takes weeks to complete and the 2357 is an NVQ3 advanced diploma which takes years. The 2357 is the industry recognised qualification, the 2397 was cooked up as a loophole.

You have to search long and hard to spot the difference, so much so that a panel of a dozen or so politicians were duped into thinking that they were the same thing!

not really you can do the 2357 in less than a year if you have done say 2330 level 2+3/equivilent first

 

[D Skelton]

not really you can do the 2357 in less than a year if you have done say 2330 level 2+3/equivilent first

The NVQ element of it yes, but not the whole diploma

 

[Engineer54]

not really you can do the 2357 in less than a year if you have done say 2330 level 2+3/equivilent first

If and only if you are working for a company that covers the spectrum of required installations. Working for a company that deals mainly or wholly with domestic installs, you aren't going to be able to complete an NVQ 3. ...Well you could always use buckshee photo's and a willing signatory, i suppose!! lol!!

I can't see how having completed a full level 3 2330 or it's equivalent has any bearing on completing an NVQ 3 in a year, especially those that are doing such courses off their own back and not being employed by an electrical company...

 

[shanky887614]

If and only if you are working for a company that covers the spectrum of required installations. Working for a company that deals mainly or wholly with domestic installs, you aren't going to be able to complete an NVQ 3. ...Well you could always use buckshee photo's and a willing signatory, i suppose!! lol!!

I can't see how having completed a full level 3 2330 or it's equivalent has any bearing on completing an NVQ 3 in a year, especially those that are doing such courses off their own back and not being employed by an electrical company...

you can use the 2330/new tech cert as prior qualifications and then just a quick multiple choice bridging test then onto the logbook.

some people have done the nvq in a year, i doubt it the only way most could do it in that time is fiddling it

 

[Engineer54]

you can use the 2330/new tech cert as prior qualifications and then just a quick multiple choice bridging test then onto the logbook.

some people have done the nvq in a year, i doubt it the only way most could do it in that time is fiddling it

It was the log book section i was thinking of shanky. To be honest i reckon that section is fiddled (as you put it) on a regular basis as many just don't get the opportunity to work on the various types of installations listed within the NVQ requirements...