Busbar or Conventional Cable System

[gerard]

Hi,

Our production line was recently destroyed by fire but hopefully we'll get going soon. The production line was pretty mush in a straight line and was powered by cables connected back to DB - about 10 drops in total. This time I am considering installing a busbar type system, like the telemechanique canalis system. Has anyone any thoughts, suggestions or recommendations on this - good or bad?

Thanks

 

[Bobster]

Whöner do an excellent bus bar system, we use it within standard rittal cabinets.

You can get it up to 1200A I think rated at 50ka, then it has carriers that clip on and can be terminated to.

 

[netblindpaul]

Don't think about it, just do it.

 

[ImpededLoop]

I've used Canalis before and it's great. We used it most in CNC engineering workshops where the machines were regularly replaced or relocated depending on the type of work that the company were doing at the time.

Busbar trunking made it very easy to quickly install or relocate a supply.

 

[gerard]

that's three yeses then. I like the idea of it. I spoke to two electricians and one said its good and the other said go for conventional system. I think it's worth a shot. One thing I must mention is that the line it is powering will never move, the machines will always be in same position - would this change your mind in any way?

 

[netblindpaul]

the line it is powering will never move, the machines will always be in same position

In the words of Victor Meldrew, "I don't believe it"...

 

[tazz]

I would consider, what coursed the original fire...electrical or otherwise and decide what measures to take on the new installation to prevent this happening again.

 

[gerard]

it wasn't an electrical fault so that was good for me. Once the line is in place, that's it - it won't move. Is the system very expensive as opposed to conventional?

 

[ImpededLoop]

that's three yeses then. I like the idea of it. I spoke to two electricians and one said its good and the other said go for conventional system. I think it's worth a shot. One thing I must mention is that the line it is powering will never move, the machines will always be in same position - would this change your mind in any way?

In this case it probably comes down to cost unless you're lucky enough to be able to specify whatever you prefer.

If it's unlikely to be modified in the future, then conventional may be the way as you have less points of potential failure (no busbar joints).

 

[netblindpaul]

it wasn't an electrical fault so that was good for me. Once the line is in place, that's it - it won't move. Is the system very expensive as opposed to conventional?

Is it really, what is the life of the facility in relation to the life of the line?

 

[gerard]

I'll go with what's best and will allow the addition of a second line in parallel to 1st line. If the busbar allows the easy addition of the second line I'll go with that. My plan was to run the busbar down the centre of the two lines and tap off as needed.

 

[Pete999]

Make it so, use the busbar method, let me know when we have the warp engine back on line,

 

[telectrix]

you been on the waccy baccy again, pete?

 

[Knobhead]

Busbar for me in a situation as you describe.

 

[Pete999]

you been on the waccy baccy again, pete?

No mate just got back from a boring morning, and finished off my Malt from Xmas. You know what it's like when the brain suddenly gets a jolt you will say anything.

 

[ipf]

In your situation, probably the bus bar. I did a fair size printers a few years back. The original design incuded for 3 sets of canalis in separate positions. Knowing the firm and situation, I advised we go against the design and, luckily, they agreed....almost half of the equipment now installed would have been in no mans land.

 

[GMES]

Yes, busbar for me also.
I have installed quite a lot of the schneider/ canalis range it.s just like mecano , not the cheapest product but you get everything from one place, power feeds, end stops, tap offs, brackets plus by installing it in the centre you can tap off from either side of the busbar.
From memory I think there are approx 5 tap off point per side per length, so as said above it is ideal for engineering workhops with multiple machines.

 

[Besoeker]

Hi,

Our production line was recently destroyed by fire but hopefully we'll get going soon. The production line was pretty mush in a straight line and was powered by cables connected back to DB - about 10 drops in total. This time I am considering installing a busbar type system, like the telemechanique canalis system. Has anyone any thoughts, suggestions or recommendations on this - good or bad?

Thanks

What sort of current are you looking at?
Just ball park.