Can this be done in a home situation (probably a simple answer)?

[Brendan Richman]

Yellow pages has a whole host of electrician numbers, if you wanted to do it properly that is.

While I agree letting a compitent electrician is obviously the way forward for someone like me, I'm sure I don't need to remind you of our current economic situation! I guess it's penny-pinching more than anything, and trying to make a simple job look a bit tidier!

 

[mayfair]

Just the sort of job that gets electrician a bad name and why a number are short of work ........I need an extension to plug in a couple of phone chargers what will it cost? 'your looking at nearly a hundred quid' Click ............lets go and buy a BS approved extension and sod the bloody electrician.

Yellow pages has a whole host of electrician numbers, if you wanted to do it properly that is.

 

[Brendan Richman]

Just the sort of job that gets electrician a bad name and why a number are short of work ........I need an extension to plug in a couple of phone chargers what will it cost? 'your looking at nearly a hundred quid' Click ............lets go and buy a BS approved extension and sod the bloody electrician.

It's very true! I didn't actually get any quotes to be honest, because I knew from past experiences that it would cost me a near arm and leg!

 

[bugsy]

you sir are totally off your head, put the wacky bacy away and think about this seriousley........... Professional and non offensive dont exactly spring to mind......Quicker we give say 7 day bans for this sort a crap the better

If you want the ads to ban me for 7 days by all means do so , I stand by what I said , this forum is in the public domain, seeing professionals approve flex plugged into a socket supplying multiple outlets does not seem very professional from my standing especially in a kitchen which comes under part p your opinion is your opinion and its not crap its BS7671 ( which you dont have to work to! )

 

[jason jones]

bugsy i agree with you thats its not proffessional, but he isn't a proffessional and wanted advice as to whether or not it was safe. In my opinion its safe, if i'm wrong then i'm wrong but it would be nice to know why.

 

[bugsy]

Does'nt comply with part p ( special location) and the 617 guests veiwing this site at the moment might just get the impression it's ok to wire extenstion leads into sockets and daisy chain them wher they like, this is the electrical forum not dodge and bodge . com

 

[Brendan Richman]

Hey guys I don't want to start arguments by opening up this thread!

While I completely agree with you Bugsy, it's not an ideal solution - and in an ideal world yes hiring an electrician would obviously be the best thing to do! However, like I said before, these are hard times, and I was being moaned at by the mrs in our new apartment!

I'm not promoting "dodgeandbodge.com", but I do think that although it is perfectly safe, and is a job that can be taken on by anyone in the same situation. From the outside, it simply looks like another socket. From the inside, it's simply an extension lead with a wall socket on. Nothing wrong with that in my opinion! Especially for the not-so-knowledgable on a tight budget!

 

[jason jones]

as i understand it he's plugging into a socket not wiring into one. also i can't see anywhere on here where he's mentioned special locations,

 

[bugsy]

Jason your right ( I assumed kitchen cupboard - may be wrong ) but implying this sort of installtion is ok is wrong ( sorry brendon but reg's are reg's ) and if we as proffessionals can approve of such installations and tell everybody else who cares to log on : yea sod it what your sparky say's is wrong electrics are all plug and play then don't complain about the lack of repect and renumeration for our proffession

 

[jason jones]

while i agree that i, you and most other sparks would do it different i can't honestly think of 1 single reg he is going against.

 

[bugsy]

So how many installations have you done with flex as fixed wiring?

 

[Spudnik]

in essence he's screwing an extension lead to a wall and plugging it in in a different room. i cant see the problem.

Sorry chaps but I agree.....

 

[Adam W]

I suppose you could do that and it'd probably work, although I'm not saying you should do it - the question being "what is it?"; it's not part of the fixed wiring and it's not an appliance, just some hideous creation which is stuck in limbo somewhere in between.

If you're going to wire sockets with flex you should terminate the ends with bootlace ferrules in accordance with 526.8.1 which is about "avoiding separation of individual wires in multiwire, fine wire, or very fine wire conductors", not about daisy chaining sockets and plugging them in somewhere.

Obviously the ideal solution would be to get the existing socket moved or another one added in accordance with the appropriate regs, esp EAWR 1989 regulations 10 ("Where necessary to prevent danger, every joint and connection in a system shall be mechanically and electrically suitable for use")
and regulation 16 ("No person shall be engaged in any work activity where technical knowledge or experience is necessary to prevent danger or, where appropriate, injury, unless he possesses such knowledge or experience, or is under such degree of supervision as may be appropriate having regard to the nature of the work.")

A desire to save money is not generally considered a defence for contravening the EAWR (the law).

 

[jason jones]

non. but i can't see the down sides of it except its price. its more managable and easier to terminate than t&e. like i said i know of no reg that he's going against.

 

[bugsy]

Sorry chaps but I agree.....

If it was an extention lead i would sit on the fence but he's wired it to a socket outlet - fixed installation