Changing Electric Meter !

[waitees]

Hi all

We carried out a job a couple of months ago on an old Victorian house, now converted into five flats, it was badly in need of a Ryefield board and switches.

The cupboard was a bit of a squeeze, for a fire panel and small landlord board.

We found the meters a bit of a squeeze (Big old style) and the customer has asked for these to be upgraded to digital.

Four of them were changed and all the new numbers were given to the suppliers, my god what a mistake.

They are now saying as we are not an approved meter installer, they are trying to charge £450 for one of the meters which is British Gas.

Now we had this before in the past and the meter was dangerous, so we installed one provided by the wholesaler, give the numbers job done, no problem.

But i am quickly finding out this is the biggest mistake, in changing them over.

I am looking to see if anyone has been in this situation before, NICEIC say its a grey area !!

any help would be extremely grateful !

 

[Knobhead]

I am looking to see if anyone has been in this situation before

We’ve got some numpties on here. But I think non are so stupid as to think they can just change the supply meter without repercussions.

any help would be extremely grateful !

Any help? You’re on your own pal!

Get ready for a bill for each of the meters. If you’re lucky they may settle for £450 each but I wouldn’t bank on it.

Keep us informed of how you go on :waving:

 

[amckay]

The meter has got naff all to do with the DNO, all the dno own is the cables from transformers to properties.
They can't have you in court for it either.
The owner of the meter is usually labeled on the meter itself and when customer changes suppliers etc the meters are "rented" by the suppliers.
Tell them to stick the bill where the sun doesn't shine your a qualified spark with more knowledge, experience and qualifications that their "approved meter installers"
Along as the meter installed meets current standards then there shouldn't be an issue

 

[Rockingit]

The meter has got naff all to do with the DNO, all the dno own is the cables from transformers to properties.
They can't have you in court for it either.
The owner of the meter is usually labeled on the meter itself and when customer changes suppliers etc the meters are "rented" by the suppliers.
Tell them to stick the bill where the sun doesn't shine your a qualified spark with more knowledge, experience and qualifications that their "approved meter installers"
Along as the meter installed meets current standards then there shouldn't be an issue

You been on the loopy juice mate? The meter is very definitely 'owned' (in the virtual sense) by the energy supplier, end of story. The DNO own the incoming supply and bullet, the energy supplier owns the tails from the bullet to meter and the meter, tails from the right side of meter (normally themselves trapped by the meter security seal) belong to customer. This is basics!!!

 

[Pete999]

Hi all

We carried out a job a couple of months ago on an old Victorian house, now converted into five flats, it was badly in need of a Ryefield board and switches.

The cupboard was a bit of a squeeze, for a fire panel and small landlord board.

We found the meters a bit of a squeeze (Big old style) and the customer has asked for these to be upgraded to digital.

Four of them were changed and all the new numbers were given to the suppliers, my god what a mistake.

They are now saying as we are not an approved meter installer, they are trying to charge £450 for one of the meters which is British Gas.

Now we had this before in the past and the meter was dangerous, so we installed one provided by the wholesaler, give the numbers job done, no problem.

But i am quickly finding out this is the biggest mistake, in changing them over.

I am looking to see if anyone has been in this situation before, NICEIC say its a grey area !!

any help would be extremely grateful !

No mate the NICEIC is a grey area

 

[Engineer54]

My mistake about who owns the meter, it's bloody confusing to me since they privatised the old Regional Electricity Boards etc.... But the fact remains, the meters are not to be tampered with in any shape or form by numbty electricians!! lol!!

 

[Knobhead]

Anyone seen the OP?

 

[Pete999]

Anyone seen the OP?

Done a runner

 

[Andy78]

Possibly down the bank arranging a loan.

 

[Geordie Spark]

Anyone seen the OP?

Over the hills and far away with his arse in flames.

 

[Knobhead]

1/ The owner of the meter is usually labeled on the meter itself

2/ your a qualified spark with more knowledge,

1/ Regardless of who the meter belongs to, it wasn’t his or the landlords to change. If there’s financial repercussions he can only blame himself.

2/ Are you sure about that? He’s not shown any sign of being knowledgeable, from where I’m looking he would seem to be incredibly stupid.

 

[Prat P]

1/ Regardless of who the meter belongs to, it wasn’t his or the landlords to change. If there’s financial repercussions he can only blame himself.

2/ Are you sure about that? He’s not shown any sign of being knowledgeable, from where I’m looking he would seem to be incredibly stupid.

I agree,he has made a mistake and once you know its wrong it will always be wrong no matter what anyone posts in your defence,I distnctly recall my days in college and where you are told in no uncertain terms what part of the installation you are permitted to work on..
The meter is not the property of the premises in most cases so don't interfere with it,a first year electrician would not make the second year if he failed to understand this,why is a supposedly qualified spark trying to play dumb?

 

[Knobhead]

I’ve just had a read of the OP’s previously started threads. The guys a DI, (Disaster Immanent). The started threads are a litany of incompetence.

 

[driverman]

How the OP removed a meter before and merely informed the supplier with readings etc is way beyond me to understand. It's just a no no no full stop. God knows what would happen if installed meter went up in smoke! Who claim ownership then?

 

[7029 dave]

Oi you are doing me out of an job, hands off not yours to touch.

 

[amckay]

I asked a question similar a while ago, just got told its a no no, without an explanation why or what law it breaks.
To me saying an electrician can't change an electricity meter is stupid, its like telling a kitchen fitter not to put in extra sockets!
7029Dave could you point me in the direction of what law/reg says we can't? I understand new meters have to meet certain requirements to be put into service tho