Code 2 for non RCD lights in a bathroom

[UKMeterman]

Hi,
I have had PIR done on a flat that was built in 1991, I have had a code 2 on the lights in the bathroom not on an RCD even though it is an IP 56 fitting, is this correct? The maximum demand has also been put at 50KVA for a 2 bed flat...!

Thanks

 

[telectrix]

code 4 for the bathroom lights, as long as there is no apparent danger. 50kVA is probably he meant 50A.

 

[tony mc]

Has there been any alterations to your bathroom lights ?

If not and supplementary bonding was in palce and tested OK IMO I would not code it !

 

[morph]

code 4

 

[Deleted member 26818]

The ESC guidance (which I do not agree with), is no code at all.
I'd go with a code 4 as well.

 

[Jay Sparks]

HI,

As from tommorow it should be C3 but I agree with above threads, code 4.

Jay

 

[PC Electrics]

The bathroom should have either RCD protection on all circuits or supplementary bonding.

If SB is in place then lack of RCD = code 4

If no SB in place there should be two coded items:
No SB = code 2
No RCD = code 2

IMO

Has the supp bond box been ticked on the schedule?

 

[mogga]

FFSFFS 16th edition its no code but a N/A note as not compliant with CURRENT regs but compliant when originaly done

 

[Rauer]

I was informed by the nic that you code it on how dangerous it is to the end user

 

[Welchyboy]

ive allways worked on the idea of a pir/eicr is to evaluate the installation against the CURRENT version of the regs, if the install was to an earlier version of the regs then issues such as above would be a code 4 but now what would they be a C3 or no code??

 

[Engineer54]

I was informed by the nic that you code it on how dangerous it is to the end user

Since when, ...did the NIC start making the rules then??

 

[Rauer]

Tho don't but they weren't happy with our coding and informed us that is how they want it done!!

 

[Engineer54]

I have no idea what they didn't like about your coding, maybe they had cause and maybe not!! But they can't and/or shouldn't be telling you how THEY want it done!! You follow the national guidelines laid out in the relevant authorities, which i guess would be the IET in this case...

 

[Octopus]

IMHO no code at all

 

[Deleted member 26818]

Just to put a spanner in the works.
Whilst the IET along with the BSI, has the responsibillity for conceiving, formulating, writing and publishing the Regulations.
In actual fact, the NICEIC, along with representatives of just about every other electrical organisation provide members of the comitee that does the work.
So technically the NICEIC do write the Regulations, or make the rules.

 

[Engineer54]

Just to put a spanner in the works.
Whilst the IET along with the BSI, has the responsibillity for conceiving, formulating, writing and publishing the Regulations.
In actual fact, the NICEIC, along with representatives of just about every other electrical organisation provide members of the comitee that does the work.
So technically the NICEIC do write the Regulations, or make the rules.

If that's the case, ...they shouldn't start trying to change them, or put there own tilt on what's been stated and approved for publication by the controlling committee... They can wait and put forward there ideas at the next committee meeting, for them to be accepted or otherwise. ..lol!!


They are only a representative part of the committee that make or set the Reg's or rules, so technically they on there own don't actually make any rules. Not that you would see that, in the way they try and make there own rules up, in some of the publications that i've seen...