Condition report question

[Nightmare1308]

Hi
I recently done a condition report on a domestic property with a garage separate to the house and the oil pipe runs thoough the garage and into the house to the boiler
the questions is am I right but saying the previous electrician using a 6mm 2core SWA to supply a consumer unit with 16A socket radial and a 6A lighting circuit then using the earth from the Armourings (which is connected to the consumer unit) to then bond the oil incorrect im sure it's suffie ct enough for the circuits but needs a separate Earth for the oil, or bond it at the house end instead ? can anyone share knowlege on it ?

 

[Guest77]

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[telectrix]

if the oil pipe is continuous metal from garage to house, it needs bonding to the MET. 10mm bond if TNC-S. i would think that the easiest way is to bond it in the house, direct to MET.

 

[Nightmare1308]

if the oil pipe is continuous metal from garage to house, it needs bonding to the MET. 10mm bond if TNC-S. i would think that the easiest way is to bond it in the house, direct to MET.[/QUOTE
yes I thought i was right just has a discussion with the QS over it, because when I commenti always put a fix next to it for quoting..
Another question off this topic is if you are testing other people work ie
the company done some new builds and you join a company 8 houses in then asked to test who's liable or would I just put on the test sheet only tested via me wired by others? thanks

 

[Pete999]

if the oil pipe is continuous metal from garage to house, it needs bonding to the MET. 10mm bond if TNC-S. i would think that the easiest way is to bond it in the house, direct to MET.[/QUOTE
yes I thought i was right just has a discussion with the QS over it, because when I commenti always put a fix next to it for quoting..
Another question off this topic is if you are testing other people work ie
the company done some new builds and you join a company 8 houses in then asked to test who's liable or would I just put on the test sheet only tested via me wired by others? thanks

Your names on the certificate, what do you think????

 

[Guest77]

yes I thought i was right just has a discussion with the QS over it, because when I commenti always put a fix next to it for quoting..
Another question off this topic is if you are testing other people work ie
the company done some new builds and you join a company 8 houses in then asked to test who's liable or would I just put on the test sheet only tested via me wired by others? thanks

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[Nightmare1308]

Your names on the certificate, what do you think????

There must be a limitation because there loads of so called electrician out there who can't test and companies have dedicated testers but surely the tester doesn't no how cables have been installed in walls etc so how can they still be liable when all they did was test ? or did u mean the QS is responsible for all works as he counter signs ?

 

[davesparks]

The idea is that the installing electrician signs the certificate and the QS then counter-signs it having checked the results and checked a big enough sample of the work to be satisfied that it is correct.

 

[Knobhead]

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Your sarcasm with no doubt pass over the two offenders heads.

At least you’ve cheered me up a little.

There must be a limitation because there loads of so called electrician out there who can't test and companies have dedicated testers but surely the tester doesn't no how cables have been installed in walls etc so how can they still be liable when all they did was test ? or did u mean the QS is responsible for all works as he counter signs ?

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[Nightmare1308]

The idea is that the installing electrician signs the certificate and the QS then counter-signs it having checked the results and checked a big enough sample of the work to be satisfied that it is correct.

The installer... is there a regulation or recommendation I can source to prove this statement ? just so I can provide it when I discuss this ? thanks

 

[enlighting]

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Play nice!

 

[telectrix]

that was mdf being nice. you don't want to see not nice.

 

[enlighting]

that was mdf being nice. you don't want to see not nice.

Ha ha ohh well, best keep an eye out

 

[Engineer54]

Hi
I recently done a condition report on a domestic property with a garage separate to the house and the oil pipe runs thoough the garage and into the house to the boiler
the questions is am I right but saying the previous electrician using a 6mm 2core SWA to supply a consumer unit with 16A socket radial and a 6A lighting circuit then using the earth from the Armourings (which is connected to the consumer unit) to then bond the oil incorrect im sure it's suffie ct enough for the circuits but needs a separate Earth for the oil, or bond it at the house end instead ? can anyone share knowlege on it ?

If this is a PME/TNC-S installation then the sub distribution cable to the garage should have been 3 core 10mm or the existing cable with a separate 10mm bonding conductor if the building has an extraneous oil pipe (or any other metal service pipe) within it's boundaries. Main bonding also needs to be carried out at the house if it's not already bonded...

A bonding connection then being made from the garage CU's EMT to the oil pipe with the usual 10mm conductor. It is not acceptable to rely on the main bonding connection within the house...

The Armouring of the 6mm SWA cable is not of a sufficient CSA to be utilised as a dual CPC/Bonding conductor....

 

[Guest77]

Play nice!

I'm one of the nicest fellas on here :biggrin: