Conumdrum - thoughts please

[Octopus]

Hi all,

went to see an opportunity today, lady wanted extra sockets so a quick look at the board revealed this...



Shes got an RCD but no main switch!

So what do I do, she hasn't got much money and from what she said she's not had any issues with her electrics!

1. Simply add the extra socket?
2. Add the socket and add a main switch between the DNO fuse and the existing CU/RCD
3. Recommend a new CU and then add the socket
4. Decline to provide an estimate
5. Any ideas from the members?


Ideally I'd try and persuade her to go for #3 but judging by her approach to questions about costs I'm 99% sure she won't go for this!

I'm sure the local handyman will simply add the sockets and ignore the implications!

 

[Octopus]

Not sure adding any costs will go down and lets not forget that all she wants is a couple of extra sockets. £4.99 down the big shed for an adapter.

What a sucess for the professionalism of our industry.

 

[Big n Daft]

This connundrum is a pearler.
Now how many of us would take a punt on just fitting another socket as a cash job?????
Not as the thought would even enter my head because it doesnt comply so therefore its not safe is it????
Whoops, cats escaped and found the pigeons...............

 

[IQ Electrical]

This connundrum is a pearler.
Now how many of us would take a punt on just fitting another socket as a cash job?????
Not as the thought would even enter my head because it doesnt comply so therefore its not safe is it????
Whoops, cats escaped and found the pigeons...............

Your choice, your insurance (I hope) and your reputation....

 

[truckster]

Leave it until after July 1st as I think the requirement to provide additional rcd protection on a minor works may be dropped.

 

[IQ Electrical]

Leave it until after July 1st as I think the requirement to provide additional rcd protection on a minor works may be dropped.

That particular clause was dropped from the DPC.

 

[Octopus]

Leave it until after July 1st as I think the requirement to provide additional rcd protection on a minor works may be dropped.

Truckster you are spot on, just been reviewing the IEE slides and presentation by Geoff Cronshaw and he has just covered it precisely (minor works)!

http://scpro.streamuk.com/uk/player/Default.aspx?wid=8561&ptid=26&t=0

1st July or is it 1st Jan 2012?

Or has it been removed?

tin hat only

 

[Big n Daft]

Your choice, your insurance (I hope) and your reputation....

Read carefully
"Not as the thought would even enter my head because it doesnt comply so therefore its not safe is it????"
Just fishing, never know what you might catch, hehehe

 

[IQ Electrical]

Truckster you are spot on, just been reviewing the IEE slides and presentation by Geoff Cronshaw and he has just covered it precisely (minor works)!

Stream Connect - Player

1st July or is it 1st Jan 2012?

Or has it been removed?

tin hat only

It's 1st January 2012 but I read the last draft before print approval at the Guidance Note 3 amendment meeting at the IET in April and the 'minor works RCD risk assessment' clause was definitely removed.

 

[pushrod]

Not sure adding any costs will go down and lets not forget that all she wants is a couple of extra sockets. £4.99 down the big shed for an adapter.

.

Well if she doesn't want to pay for a proper job... that is what she should do
If i want something, i save up for it !

 

[rodney12]

I was told it had been taken out of the ammendment as well at an ELECSA roadshow

 

[NMc]

What about doing a departure - 100mA RCD at customers request

 

[Deleted member 26818]

Any departure has to offer the same degree of safety as would be afforded by compliance with the Regulations.
The only option as I see it, would be to follow the requirements for the cable that don't require RCD protection, and use RCD socket-outlets, or perhaps install a stand alone RCD to protect the RFC.

 

[truckster]

It's 1st January 2012 but I read the last draft before print approval at the Guidance Note 3 amendment meeting at the IET in April and the 'minor works RCD risk assessment' clause was definitely removed.

Thanks for the update IQ, I was trying to remember where I read it but it seems thats redundant now.