cooker point

[eric the spark]

does a cooker isolation point need to be above a work top or is it possible to mount in a cupboard unit next to the cooker. At the moment these is'nt one but am trying to sort out for the customer for minimum damage to her walls. What doy uo guys think about that?

 

[trev]

It's a debatable point mate, accessories should be fixed to the fabric of a building but some would say that once a kitchen unit is fitted it becomes part of the fabric. Personally I don't like isolators in cupboards but if the customer insists...

 

[One_of_them]

cut a hole in the back of the unit and fit to the wall. However i prefer them to be visible should the cooker need to be isolated ASAP and by the time the cupboards get full of crap as mine are then you have no hope of finding

 

[joe j]

I put the same q a couple of days ago. As long as accessible etc cupboards are ok. It's not best practice but ok by regs etc.

 

[telectrix]

or you could omit the isolator and use the MCB/fuse in the CU for isolation.

 

[eric the spark]

Would using the mcb in consumer unit work according to the regs?

 

[sjm]

I thought that the cooker isolator had to be within 2 meters of the cooker, or is this just another myth.
IMHO isolator in cupboard is not ideal but acceptable within the regs. Personally I would fit it towards the front of the cupboard and at a height above the shelf that will allow for stuff to be stored on the shelf.

 

[telectrix]

as far as i know, there is no stipulation in the regs. to fit a local isolator to a cooker, or in fact, a shower. at the end of the day, isolation is to allow safe working on a point.

 

[joe j]

or you could omit the isolator and use the MCB/fuse in the CU for isolation.

Sorry Tel but must be within 2m, OSG appx H, just happen to have it next to me. Sad.

Edit. But you've got me thinking about the shower......

 

[GaryM]

Now go and find it in BS7671:2008 (2011) - good luck!

However, Manufacturers Instructions should be read and adhered to.

 

[Engineer54]

Now go and find it in BS7671:2008 (2011) - good luck!

However, Manufacturers Instructions should be read and adhered to.

Unfortunately many appliances are sold/marketed in many different countries, and manufactures instructions and data are usually just a straight translation from the country of origin, which often bears no resemblance to recognised BS 7671 wiring methods!!

The better manufactures instructions, will often come with a statement that refers you too your countries/local codes and regulations... So it's not always a case of blindly following a manufactures instructions, i'm afraid!!!

 

[drewman]

if you isolate using MCB you are only isolating the live...i would always put isolator on show and within 2 meters of cooker