Customer wiring own electrics

[Sb8389]

Hey guys
Went to a customer today who wanted some electrical work looking at. Turned up and he showed me a granny annexe he had wired himself. (He has assured me he has 30years experience in the industry) he now wants it testing and certifying and a part p certificate issuing. I’m not comfortable with putting my name to the install and doing an electrical installation certificate. What would you do in this situation and what are his options.

 

[Charlie_]

Did he notify building control before he started?

 

[AJshep]

Ask him to find out if the local building control will except an EICR ?
I wouldn't certify someone elses work.

 

[Sb8389]

I can’t see how he couldn’t have notified building control of the works as it’s a two story building. Do you reckon they would accept an EICR? Could be worth a phone call.

 

[Dustydazzler]

Unless you were involved with the job you can’t really adopt it as your own...
I know people have do taken on near complete jobs and have seen this done but it’s not strictly correct

The guy should have really notified building control ahead of time not after the fact

 

[Sb8389]

Would an EICR be the only way forward now as I can’t see any contractor signing the work off as their own. Would building control send someone out to do the relevant tests to get their part p certificate. Not sure what’s best to advice him going forward apart from stop being a tight arse and getting a spark in to begin with or if he is a spark get his own registration.

 

[StephenRowley]

In the words of the stranglers walk on by.

It'll be more trouble than its worth

 

[MJPD29]

I would tell him I'm not interested

 

[Andy78]

"I'm sorry that's not a service I offer or am interested in offering"

Is my usual professional alternative to "Would you turn up at a restaurant and hand the chef some spuds and a steak you cheeky twunt ?"

 

[Deleted member 26818]

There is a 3rd party certification scheme run by Napit and Stroma (I think).
From what I understand, you have to be registered with them to conduct 3rd party notifications, and the ‘certificate’ issued is some kind of EICR.

 

[westward10]

That is not a customer a customer would have asked you to to do the wiring in the first place. I would personally walk away but if an EICR is the only option then put in an extortionate price for it.

 

[andyb]

Just quote for a EICR, if he accepts the quote just do that.
It's not your problem if the councill accept it or not, he needs to sort that out for himself.
You can't sign it off so that's a non starter.

 

[Dustydazzler]

There is a 3rd party certification scheme run by Napit and Stroma (I think).
From what I understand, you have to be registered with them to conduct 3rd party notifications, and the ‘certificate’ issued is some kind of EICR.

Yes

There is an option to employ a sparks to act as a 3rd party when it comes to notifying Diy electrical work.
However this should be done during the project so the sparks gets to see the wiring as well as the finished job.

This OP sounds like the job is all finished with no way to see the actual wiring.

You could in theory drop off all the accessories and do a thorough eicr and notify the job as your own , if the money is right

 

[littlespark]

Every other certificate apart from an eicr asks for designer, installer and tester. You can’t put your name to the first two.
Probably why the others are certificates and an eicr is only a report.

Agree with above. Do it as an eicr and it’s up to the customer to get his P

Just think about what would happen if you fully signed it off and there’s an incident soon.
Creeks and paddles spring to mind

 

[Toneyz]

There is a 3rd party certification scheme run by Napit and Stroma (I think).
From what I understand, you have to be registered with them to conduct 3rd party notifications, and the ‘certificate’ issued is some kind of EICR.

You can't even go down that path now it's too late.
The only test and inspection is an EICR.
Even with the EIC and he signs off design and construction parts you can do the testing but no inspection part. It' what you can't see.