do you have to have 2391 to carry out periodic inspections on a domestic property?

[davepmorris]

just wondered if you had to have the 2391 qualification to carry out periodic inspections?

 

[Deleted member 26818]

Re: do you have to have 2391 to carry out periodic inspections on a domestic property

No, you have to be competent.

 

[telectrix]

Re: do you have to have 2391 to carry out periodic inspections on a domestic property

simple answer is ... NO...just cometent to test and inspect. but it helps if the brown stuff ever hits the fan as it is some way to proving your competence

 

[telectrix]

Re: do you have to have 2391 to carry out periodic inspections on a domestic property

snap.....

 

[tony mc]

Re: do you have to have 2391 to carry out periodic inspections on a domestic property

No you don't you have to be competent.

There are lots of highly experianced electrians out ther who do not hold a 2391 but are excelent at what they do and do PIR regularly.

 

[telectrix]

Re: do you have to have 2391 to carry out periodic inspections on a domestic property

proves we both crap at spelling/typing, then, tony

 

[tony mc]

Re: do you have to have 2391 to carry out periodic inspections on a domestic property

Bit like my replies today Im sure before Im 60 I will find something I can do well typeing is not my strong point and spelllllling well!!!!

 

[bluemonkeyface]

Re: do you have to have 2391 to carry out periodic inspections on a domestic property

Anyone can carry out a PIR

What makes you say you should be competent? I don't think that's a requirement.

Anyone can buy a PIR booklet from NICEIC and no qualifications are required

A window cleaner can carry out a periodic inspection report.

 

[Deleted member 26818]

Re: do you have to have 2391 to carry out periodic inspections on a domestic property

Ah but would they be a competent window cleaner?

 

[bluemonkeyface]

Re: do you have to have 2391 to carry out periodic inspections on a domestic property

what regulation are you referring to in suggesting that the said person should be, competent?

 

[Deleted member 26818]

Re: do you have to have 2391 to carry out periodic inspections on a domestic property

That would be Regulation 16 of EAWR:
"Persons to be competent to prevent danger and injury
16. No person shall be engaged in any work activity where technical knowledge or experience is necessary to prevent danger or, where appropriate, injury, unless he possesses such knowledge or experiance, or is under such degree of supervision as may be appropriate having regard to the nature of the work."

 

[Farmelectrics]

Re: do you have to have 2391 to carry out periodic inspections on a domestic property

read the regs bluemonket the word competent is there for a reason

 

[rallyandy]

Re: do you have to have 2391 to carry out periodic inspections on a domestic property

page 162 of the BRB 621.5 " Periodic inspection and testing shall be undertaken by a competent person"

 

[MTI]

Re: do you have to have 2391 to carry out periodic inspections on a domestic property

I know this is going back a few month guys but im due my assessment in a couple of weeks. This is what i have just got on elecsa site! bummer - i get offered some pir stuff too.

Also, can anyone confirm the situation with commercial work and registration? Im aware elecsa is part p domestic but can i install, pir and sign off commercial work then?

cheers!

from elecsa:

[h=2]ELECSA[/h] ELECSA will therefore only be offering assessments of competence to undertake Periodic Inspection and Testing to its Scheme A (full scope) registered contractors.
[h=2]What do I need to carry out Periodics with ELECSA?[/h] The process will involve the contractor either having a periodic assessment added onto his surveillance visit, or having it as a stand-alone assessment.
The contractor will be expected to have, in addition to the requirements of Part P:

1. City & Guilds 2391
2. IEE Guidance Note 3
3. A minimum of 2 Periodic Inspection reports for review.
4. A site visit will be made where a full and comprehensive Periodic Inspection has taken place

Any non-compliances will be notified to the contractor and advice given for them to address the issues raised.

 

[Deleted member 26818]

Re: do you have to have 2391 to carry out periodic inspections on a domestic property

You do not need to register with any body, to perform PIRs, or to conduct commercial/industrial work.
It is only for domestic/dwellings that registration is required (if you do not want to go through the notification process).