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[Darkwood]

Right ... Just been nudged to set this up by Paul.M and sounds a good idea following recent threads I've done in the Arms..

Rules....No Offensive material... edit if required before posting as this is the public arena.
Anything to do with the trade or in and around it ...H&S pic's welcome.



I've posted this a few times and this is at a mates house following a kitchen refirb several yrs ago. mg_smile:

 

[James]

These breakers on the right supply a 400V heater and the local lighting to an area housing a compressor and a load of conveyors. The main breaker is supplying the compressor.
Lovely work piggybacking off the live side to feed those. I’m at a loss why this is appropriate. The guy who installed this lot was South African, is this a way of doing things over there? There are multiple instances of this across the site.
So when the compressor is isolated in the switch room for maintenance the local light and heating is lost
There’s a perfectly good fuseboard about 20m along the wall he could have used. I’ve never understood people doing things like this

Not sure that I see a big problem here.
Surely you can isolate the compressor either with the breaker on the left or possibly a rotary isolator is fixed to the machine?

 

[ERFspark]

So the done thing when you need to design a supply to a new circuit is to just connect it to the nearest electrical equipment you can, rather than to a fuseboard and have it on its own circuit?
When I was an electrical installer my QS would have had kittens if he’d seen me doing things like this.

 

[Julie.]

So the done thing when you need to design a supply to a new circuit is to just connect it to the nearest electrical equipment you can, rather than to a fuseboard and have it on its own circuit?
When I was an electrical installer my QS would have had kittens if he’d seen me doing things like this.

But it depends what the requirement is, if it is to have all the equipment in one particular area to have a single point of isolation, then in makes sense.

Having multiple points of isolation for the same area is often an issue on some sites.

It doesn't look like they picked a random supply, but a standard methodology for the site.

 

[ERFspark]

It isn’t standard methodology. In the 20 years I’ve been an industrial electrician I have never connected a new circuit to the nearest equipment. No labels on the enclosure or the equipment, nothing.
The De mister tripped a few months ago, no one had any idea where it was fed from. Searched for ages. Turns out there was a random floating breaker in the enclosure of a 63A socket outlet next to the RCD, which was about 20m from the unit. Which was only 5m away from a fuseboard. Utter laziness.

 

[Raptor0014]

Bit of background for this.

Shop owner asked for a quote to install an air curtain a few weeks ago. So sent the quote with the intention to install it on a 20A DP switch and a dedicated circuit as it’s 3033w when running.

Owner rejected the quote as had been given a cheaper quote from another ‘electrician’ who’d told them it just needed to be put on a 13a plug.

‘Le electrician extraordinaire’ took a spur from a nearby socket and put a 2g plug in for a drinks machine and the air curtain.

Got a call last night asking if I could come and have a look at it as it was smoking. They’d turned the power off and left it.

Went this morning and found this…

It’s now installed properly on a dedicated circuit with a 20A DP switch.

 

[DPG]

At least they used a decent socket and not a bargain basement special.

 

[MJPD29]

Maybe they'll learn their lesson after paying twice

 

[mainline]

I wonder did he call Mr hopeforthebest back at all ?, I would be asking for some money back towards having it done decently.

 

[Raptor0014]

I wonder did he call Mr hopeforthebest back at all ?, I would be asking for some money back towards having it done decently.

He has asked for me to quote for some additional work that the other one was supposed to come back and do.

But he’s not having him back now. Can’t think why as he used MK sockets which are quite decent.

 

[freddo]

Can’t think why as he used MK sockets which are quite decent.

Perhaps he scrimped on the plug[top] ?!

 

[freddo]

The earth wire is connected to the bell push. I didn't take the push apart to see what went on from there.

 

[mainline]

He has asked for me to quote for some additional work that the other one was supposed to come back and do.

But he’s not having him back now. Can’t think why as he used MK sockets which are quite decent.

He maybe hasn't paid him yet, and if so, he's probably not going to.

 

[Dave OCD]

That MK socket was probably damaged by extreme heat from the live pin on the plug - quite possibly the fuse wasn't tight enough, but it's pretty inevitable if you put a constant 3kW on it for any length of time.

 

[Raptor0014]

That MK socket was probably damaged by extreme heat from the live pin on the plug - quite possibly the fuse wasn't tight enough, but it's pretty inevitable if you put a constant 3kW on it for any length of time.

I did tell him the plug would overheat as they’re not designed to run at 13a constantly for 15hrs a day (shop is open 0600-2100 daily).

But I guess he thought I was trying to make money out of the job.

 

[Dave OCD]

There's always someone out there willing to undercut you, but it's very satisfying when you get another call to put their bodges right.