Domestic Lighting

[Hoya]

I'd like to offer lighting installation with my business as i feel it will be a great asset. However i do not want to become an electrician, Do i need to be an electrican to install some lighting? also what courses/training would i need for me to carry out lighting installations for my customers.

New to the forum btw hello to you call.

 

[acat]

You would be rather foolish to do any work without public liabilty insurance which covers you if things go wrong, without it you could end up in very serious trouble.

Any work you do in domestic premises that are deemed special locations would require you to notify LABC in advance and they will require a hefty payment to check your work for you.

I cant in all honesty see any insurance company giving you cover without the qualifications


Chris

 

[bugsy]

HO HUM HO HUM may I suggest you scroll through the post PROBLEM CUSTOMER
have think and ask yourself

 

[saveloy]

HO HUM HO HUM may I suggest you scroll through the post PROBLEM CUSTOMER
have think and ask yourself

Now Now Bugsy

 

[dufjax]

Now Now Bugsy

Lololol


I maybe should not mention like for like replacements then? (not in special locations or outside)

But I still think you wouldn't get the PL so you wouldn't be able to make this apart of your business.

Jim

 

[Spudnik]

As has been pointed out, some lighting installs will require notification to LABC or you could enrol on one of the self cert schemes, but the costs are very expensive, especially with course fees, equipment, insurance etc.

 

[Hoya]

I'm having difficulty understanding your answers as non of them seem to answer my questions. Anybody else?

If i wanted to be an electrican i would follow it through till i become one i, i feel that there must be some sort of cert or training that could help me be able to install lighting in customers housing.

What about just installing the lighting systems in to desired places then calling for the electrician to wire it up safly? This way nothing to do with electric is being messed with as it would be purely cosmetic.

As has been pointed out, some lighting installs will require notification to LABC or you could enrol on one of the self cert schemes, but the costs are very expensive, especially with course fees, equipment, insurance etc.

 

[acat]

Taking into account all of the above posts and the fact that you dont understand them the simple answer is no you cant on many occassions you would be breaking the law and not even know you were doing it.



Chris

 

[bugsy]

Get a few quotes from registered sparkies ask for some referaces verify their part p registration and go from there,

If you do not want to become an electrician but want to get involved with lighting look at couses for lighting design

 

[Hoya]

Thank you very much for your input bugsy and anyone else who wasnt negative to my query, I have a friend already who is an electrician and can help me come the time, i am only looking in to options at present and i will look in to lighting design courses but i would think they maybe rare?

 

[bugsy]

Try the ILE they will point in the right direction

 

[Jason Smith]

mate, well done !! no one can ask better of anyone than to ask if you dont know, thats exactly what you are doing, and you have had some usefull replies. All a light is, is an electrical accessory, it is to be treated with no less than the full works of BS7671, Part P, and especially fire regs- Approved doc B, approved doc a (structures )-and any ive forgotten.
New lights come with problems, is there a CPC in the existing circuit ? bit of a minefield, You cant really do just a course on installing lights, as a minimum its off to college for you on a full course! Very well done for knowing your limitations, thats not being reckless with the publics safety. P.S. of course havent mentioned the inspect and test of new circuits,(college course ) Fluke or Megga testers £600-£800 each, just giving you some hints as to the lines you should be thinking along.

 

[flukey]

I'd like to offer lighting installation with my business as i feel it will be a great asset. However i do not want to become an electrician, Do i need to be an electrican to install some lighting? also what courses/training would i need for me to carry out lighting installations for my customers.

New to the forum btw hello to you call.

hi hoya,
what business are you in

 

[m4tty]

hi hoya,
what business are you in

not Hydroponics is it ??? lol not setting up cannabis factories r u bruv??

 

[flukey]

you must be on the same wavelength as me matty lol

 

[dufjax]

I'd love to see the EIC for that one lolol

I'm still sure you'd get it past the LABC

Jim

 

[flukey]

depends whether its in a special location lol

 

[bugsy]

Well it will be wont it - uncle winston's lock up

 

[dufjax]

Well it will be wont it - uncle winston's lock up

lololol

That'll make a change... It's normaly some poor landlord's property. Also a reason for not trusting agents (loads of posts on other landlord sites)

Jim

 

[Hoya]

How did you guess? I have a private direct power cable from a friend in Russia he provides me with the power i pass him the buddah.

Wonder if we have actualy stumbled upon a niche here lads? could just advertise as hydrophonics installers everyones happy.

Going back to one of my original questions is there no possiblity of when im installing ceilings in properties i can put the lights in ready for wireing?

I'm trying to sus what i can do without calling my mate to come do everything for the money i want to be getting.

I'm not writing out my sparkie mate one little bit just wanting to know what i can actualy do with lighting before i need a sparkie?

You see i can be the man who does the customisation of the ceilings for the lights then they can be just installed by my mate.

Colour i turned after my first bucket>

 

[Jason Smith]

How can you instal lighting without the knowledge of where you are alowed to run wires,? allowed to dril holes in joists? or cut notches?, ultimately these considerations tell your client where they are allowed to have their lights !!!- yes we can put a light anywhere, sometimes its at great cost because of the above considerations. And another thing, No sparkey will certificate a new circuit unless he saw the wiring run going in ! Re read my message mate ! give you a clue to real life lighting, its cheaper to put a pad saw through a ceiling and re board it rather than have a chipbard sheet bedroom floor up and back down. If you wana replace a light fitting with another, then its just a replacement unit- I think thats all you had better stick to at the moment. Yep, any sparky will come along and connect it up for you.

 

[SirKit Breaker]

Thank you very much for your input bugsy and anyone else who wasnt negative to my query, I have a friend already who is an electrician and can help me come the time, i am only looking in to options at present and i will look in to lighting design courses but i would think they maybe rare?

Thats probably the best route to take. He will also be able to spec an installation for you to your customers requirements, and as he is a sparky he will know what can and cant be achieved with wiring and switching etc.

Some of the other posts may appear negative, but they are correct in what they say. The advent of Part P building regs put the mockers on it for the likes of yourself. Unfortunately if you wish to fit lighting you will have to play to the same rules as we do, and have all the test gear etc etc that we need. It makes no difference whether you want to be an sparky or not.

Cheers........Howard