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I would be wary of a customer that you consider so good and despite your repeated conversations about how work should proceed are holding the carrot of another contractor over you to influence your decision. I would take careful note of the advice given by IQ.
 
say, for instance, the previous so called experts had priced as low as £10 per circuit (quite do-able, giving the detail of their report), they'd maybe have got the job this time? I didn't want to risk that.

As i've said previously, THESE TESTS ARE A STARTING POINT

How would you lads, who seem unable to grasp the above point, go about testing a bank? or a shop, during shop opening hours?

Turn up, "power's going off chief, we've got a test to do!"??

I'm gonna make a start, using for guidance, my knowledge, the regs, guidance notes, and a whole pile of common sense on the top!
 
say, for instance, the previous so called experts had priced as low as £10 per circuit (quite do-able, giving the detail of their report), they'd maybe have got the job this time? I didn't want to risk that.

As i've said previously, THESE TESTS ARE A STARTING POINT

How would you lads, who seem unable to grasp the above point, go about testing a bank? or a shop, during shop opening hours?

Turn up, "power's going off chief, we've got a test to do!"??

I'm gonna make a start, using for guidance, my knowledge, the regs, guidance notes, and a whole pile of common sense on the top!

It's not us that asked for advice . You just do what you seem fit and good luck to you . More seem concerned than unconcerned is my last word on this.
 
say, for instance, the previous so called experts had priced as low as £10 per circuit (quite do-able, giving the detail of their report), they'd maybe have got the job this time? I didn't want to risk that.

As i've said previously, THESE TESTS ARE A STARTING POINT

How would you lads, who seem unable to grasp the above point, go about testing a bank? or a shop, during shop opening hours?

Turn up, "power's going off chief, we've got a test to do!"??

I'm gonna make a start, using for guidance, my knowledge, the regs, guidance notes, and a whole pile of common sense on the top!

For banks etc there are a series of meetings with IT, security etc. and a programme of isolations is usually agreed, often out of hours so the testing regime is not compromised by access/security issues.

These contracts can edge towards £30 per circuit but there's a lot of non productive time to factor in before you get sight of a distribution board!
 
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Originally Posted by maffa ent [ElectriciansForums.net] eicr caravan park
say, for instance, the previous so called experts had priced as low as £10 per circuit (quite do-able, giving the detail of their report), they'd maybe have got the job this time? I didn't want to risk that.

As i've said previously, THESE TESTS ARE A STARTING POINT

How would you lads, who seem unable to grasp the above point, go about testing a bank? or a shop, during shop opening hours?

Turn up, "power's going off chief, we've got a test to do!"??

I'm gonna make a start, using for guidance, my knowledge, the regs, guidance notes, and a whole pile of common sense on the top!



It's not us that asked for advice . You just do what you seem fit and good luck to you . More seem concerned than unconcerned is my last word on this.

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Out of interest what will your limitations be, and as you state these tests are a starting point. What worth will the EICR be if not a full test. Or have I missed your pont.
 
ir tests are to be carried out later in the year, when the site is quieter. reading through the posts now, i should have mentioned this, so sorry - i wasn't trying to misinform.

one of my main points, originally, was that, did the consensus feel it was fair to apply limitations for reasons other than electrical safety and operational reasons?

i feel, after the discussions, that i've done an acceptable thing.

as mentioned, the previous contractors ( specialists in this area) only drecorded zs readings!

any deviation from the reports that they've produced , eg circuit id, will be snagged by us and rectified at an extra cost
 
Thats it , if a regime of regular maintenance and sample testing has been carried out it changes the position. But as was pointed out testing at an appropriate time of year would alleviate a lot of the testing restrictions on you . We'll just put it down to a lack of communication skills on my part lol.
 
an update, just fyi.

we've done all loops and rcd tests this week. a few failed rcd's. nothing unexpected.

we also found plenty of incorrect circuit id, so i'm going to speak to customers monday morning regarding the next job, correctly identifying all circuits, hook ups, du's.

not doing ir's just yet until site is quieter, but planned for later in the year.

also done some extra work for same customer on different site of theirs, and had several conversations about the fact that i don't need to worry about 'buying' their work, as they're more than happy with everything, so that's good.

i suppose what i was trying to sort out, in my own head and with the opinions of others, was how viable is it to carry out work like eicr's to a much lower standard than i usually do, simply because of price?

the fact is, i've always priced to do a thorough job, and will continue to do so, but sometimes my prices get laughed at, against other contractors who are simply not doing the work as well. i was feeling like i'd have to have a serious look at the way i priced work, but perhaps just a little tweeking will do for now!
 

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