EICR Limitations

[Dean Williams]

Just had a meeting today with Peter Lee Williams, NICEIC assessor for my promotion to QS.
amongst other things he said that one of the limitations for eicr's should be that portable appliances have not been tested.
just wondering what everyone's thoughts are. I thought it was unnecessary.

 

[topquark]

Not part of the fixed wiring of the house IMHO, so unnecessary.

 

[telectrix]

he's talking through his arse. since when have portable appliances been part of the wiring regs.

 

[Octopus]

As usual the NICEIC is making up the rules to suit themselves!

 

[needasparks]

TBF we don't know how this topic was raised during the inspection. He must have had some reason to bring it up as this is not an area normally commented on so we can't assume.

 

[Dean Williams]

he was looking at one of my first attempts at an eicr, i'd listed fire alarms as a LIM, but he said "what's missing" i said i didnt know, he said portable appliances.

 

[Top Cat]

I can feel another course coming on! For a fee, naturally!

 

[huntos33]

I would never think of listing either fire alarms or pa's as a lim TBH

 

[telectrix]

nor would any sane sparks, but here we're talking nic nac paddy wack

 

[Dean Williams]

I can feel another course coming on! For a fee, naturally!

he suggested i do the NIC online course for eicrs....only 60 + vat he said, casually!!

 

[plugsandsparks]

It does appear that NIC do have a wish to develop the regs by pure train of thought.

Fotunately i am not NIC registered and read the current regs instead.

It does annoy me though as you end up with two sparkies coming up with two different solutions both thinking they are correct.

Fortunately most of my customers know the difference between fixed wiring and appliances

 

[Dean Williams]

even though he's told me to put PAT as a lim from now on, i'm tempted to ignore him. When other elec engineers e.g. our clients see it they may think i'm stupid!!

 

[Top Cat]

even though he's told me to put PAT as a lim from now on, i'm tempted to ignore him. When other elec engineers e.g. our clients see it they may think i'm stupid!!

I get told every year by my NIC guy to do something that he thinks is correct and i ignore it every year as 1 or 2 years later another guy tells me different!

If you confront them usually they back down as it is only there personal interpretation of the regs.

 

[Guest55]

WTF is it with the NIC ??
Are they incapable of following bs7671 like everyone else without their own daft interpretations ?
And i'd be viewing your assessor as nothing more than a salesman trying to offload the schemes overpriced services.
How about a nuclear reactor ? shall we LIM them in a domestic pir as well ?
----ers.

 

[Guest55]

And to answer the OP's question , Limitations are ONLY for items normally covered within a fixed wiring inspection.