Hello i've recently just had a re wire done on a three bed semi house, Ive noticed a few things im not 100 percent on ive spoken to the firm that carried out the rewire and they don't seem to be concerned to the point ive had to contact the niceic,
http://www.niceic.com/
I just would like to point out am i no way an electrician or pretend to be one so please be gentle if i get things wrong i apologize in advance, the first problem we had was all the sockets and switches where so wonky and so deep in the wall i had to get them back to try to straighten the boxes and switches out. not much could be done with the 25mm boxes three inches deep in the wall so we decided to try to plaster it anyway. On employing the plasterer he said the wall chasing wasn't deep enough for the capping that was installed and the he couldn't cover the capping as it protruded the wall. When i called the electrician he simply said he would come back and rip the capping of the wall and tack the wires to the chases. I asked if the chases he had installed could be chased to the correct depth and capping re used and he told me no and there was no way he would be doing this. Unfortunately this set the tone for the whole experience i have had with them as they then demanded payment there and then for the completed works ( £4250 ) even though i had slight concerns at the time with the installation. I expressed some of my concerns and then was promptly threated with being taken to court and interest being added to the bill. I reluctantly paid them as it was 2 weeks before christmas and my wife and children had been staying away while the works was completed and i didnt fancy living in a destroyed house while things took forever to go to court.
When i went to check on the house mid installation i noticed that the cables for the radial circuits upstairs where bigger than the ones downstairs when asked he said that he was installing a 4mm radial for the sockets upstairs and a 2.5 downstairs i asked why and he said it was a favor to us and this was indeed better as we can use more things upstairs, i asked if he could indeed use 2.5 te on all the radials and he said to do this would be another days work and it would be another £500 with it being so close to christmas and in the current situation i wasn't able to find the extra money. Does this sound ok to you surely they cables should be the same size? My main concern was running additional spurs and getting the additional wires in the back for the future.
A month on from that initial incident with them i have noticed things that don't seem correct and some that to me seem like blatant vandalism and poor workmanship but i could be wrong. As most of the floorboards haven't been put back very well ive had to re lift them and try to put them back down myself no real issue but its what i have seen that concerns me slightly ive noticed cuts in the outer sheathing on cables and a number or cables that are on top of hot water pipes? Is this dangerous at all? We have noticed termination in the loft on a bathroom light with no sheathing on just sheathing on the actual coloured wires?
One of my biggest concerns is how it has been routed around the house they seem to have cut holes in the kitchen ceiling instead of taking the boards up in the bathroom hence this has resulted in when they have drilled the holes in the joists them being very close to the edge of the joist and on a angle if that makes sense as there isn't enough room to get the 16mm wood drill in there there are three holes used for the runs above the kitchen. This has resulted in the bathroom floor beeing considerably bouncy a coincidence maybe but im not sure and will need further investigation.
On the topic of holes used for runs in joists they seem to have drilled holes all the way across the landing and into the back bedroom they have used the holes up to the last bedroom them left them empty as in not used them so there is about 5 or 6 joists with holes just drilled in them for the sake of it.. not a massive deal but i dont see the point in damaging joists for the sake of it?
one of the latest things ive seen is where the new pendant light fittings have been installed it seems as if they have taken up the bare minimum floor bords from above and then used a 16mm wood drill and and drilled vertically on a slight angle and pushed the lighting circuit cables up like this from what i have been reading could this damage the joists structurally my concern is the size of the hole vertically upwards if this makes sense. is this the correct way to do this?
This is just a few things the whole installation seems a rush job and pretty rough with regard to what you cant see, they have fitted a a 20way rcbo cu and theres about 10 spare ways this seems excessive to me but its better to have more spare than none i guess.
Ive contacted the niceic and been in talks with them for a few weeks they agreed i may need to have a site visit to address some of my concerns with them but with the current situation with covid they have no idea when this could be and suggested i get a third party to inspect it then take the company to the small claims court and it all sounds like a complete headache tbh as they would then close the complaint.
I suppose im just looking for some advice really as i have doubts... would a third party confirm that the joists have been damaged to the extent they need replacing or fixing? could they even be fixed or have they ruined my house? ive kind of wrote the 4k off and hopefully the new electrician if i can find one that wants to touch someone else's bodge ill just have to pay for them to sort it out then decide if its worth the headache of small claims.
Its been a stressful time and still is stressful every day as im not sure what direction to take bare in mind they left the house so dirty its taken weeks to get back to any sort of normality and with a baby and child under 4 its not been an easy time for them either. The company we used in fact works for my wifes company doing subcontracted work for landlords with rented property that adds to our frustration and disappointment to the way its been handled.
Thanks,
http://www.niceic.com/
I just would like to point out am i no way an electrician or pretend to be one so please be gentle if i get things wrong i apologize in advance, the first problem we had was all the sockets and switches where so wonky and so deep in the wall i had to get them back to try to straighten the boxes and switches out. not much could be done with the 25mm boxes three inches deep in the wall so we decided to try to plaster it anyway. On employing the plasterer he said the wall chasing wasn't deep enough for the capping that was installed and the he couldn't cover the capping as it protruded the wall. When i called the electrician he simply said he would come back and rip the capping of the wall and tack the wires to the chases. I asked if the chases he had installed could be chased to the correct depth and capping re used and he told me no and there was no way he would be doing this. Unfortunately this set the tone for the whole experience i have had with them as they then demanded payment there and then for the completed works ( £4250 ) even though i had slight concerns at the time with the installation. I expressed some of my concerns and then was promptly threated with being taken to court and interest being added to the bill. I reluctantly paid them as it was 2 weeks before christmas and my wife and children had been staying away while the works was completed and i didnt fancy living in a destroyed house while things took forever to go to court.
When i went to check on the house mid installation i noticed that the cables for the radial circuits upstairs where bigger than the ones downstairs when asked he said that he was installing a 4mm radial for the sockets upstairs and a 2.5 downstairs i asked why and he said it was a favor to us and this was indeed better as we can use more things upstairs, i asked if he could indeed use 2.5 te on all the radials and he said to do this would be another days work and it would be another £500 with it being so close to christmas and in the current situation i wasn't able to find the extra money. Does this sound ok to you surely they cables should be the same size? My main concern was running additional spurs and getting the additional wires in the back for the future.
A month on from that initial incident with them i have noticed things that don't seem correct and some that to me seem like blatant vandalism and poor workmanship but i could be wrong. As most of the floorboards haven't been put back very well ive had to re lift them and try to put them back down myself no real issue but its what i have seen that concerns me slightly ive noticed cuts in the outer sheathing on cables and a number or cables that are on top of hot water pipes? Is this dangerous at all? We have noticed termination in the loft on a bathroom light with no sheathing on just sheathing on the actual coloured wires?
One of my biggest concerns is how it has been routed around the house they seem to have cut holes in the kitchen ceiling instead of taking the boards up in the bathroom hence this has resulted in when they have drilled the holes in the joists them being very close to the edge of the joist and on a angle if that makes sense as there isn't enough room to get the 16mm wood drill in there there are three holes used for the runs above the kitchen. This has resulted in the bathroom floor beeing considerably bouncy a coincidence maybe but im not sure and will need further investigation.
On the topic of holes used for runs in joists they seem to have drilled holes all the way across the landing and into the back bedroom they have used the holes up to the last bedroom them left them empty as in not used them so there is about 5 or 6 joists with holes just drilled in them for the sake of it.. not a massive deal but i dont see the point in damaging joists for the sake of it?
one of the latest things ive seen is where the new pendant light fittings have been installed it seems as if they have taken up the bare minimum floor bords from above and then used a 16mm wood drill and and drilled vertically on a slight angle and pushed the lighting circuit cables up like this from what i have been reading could this damage the joists structurally my concern is the size of the hole vertically upwards if this makes sense. is this the correct way to do this?
This is just a few things the whole installation seems a rush job and pretty rough with regard to what you cant see, they have fitted a a 20way rcbo cu and theres about 10 spare ways this seems excessive to me but its better to have more spare than none i guess.
Ive contacted the niceic and been in talks with them for a few weeks they agreed i may need to have a site visit to address some of my concerns with them but with the current situation with covid they have no idea when this could be and suggested i get a third party to inspect it then take the company to the small claims court and it all sounds like a complete headache tbh as they would then close the complaint.
I suppose im just looking for some advice really as i have doubts... would a third party confirm that the joists have been damaged to the extent they need replacing or fixing? could they even be fixed or have they ruined my house? ive kind of wrote the 4k off and hopefully the new electrician if i can find one that wants to touch someone else's bodge ill just have to pay for them to sort it out then decide if its worth the headache of small claims.
Its been a stressful time and still is stressful every day as im not sure what direction to take bare in mind they left the house so dirty its taken weeks to get back to any sort of normality and with a baby and child under 4 its not been an easy time for them either. The company we used in fact works for my wifes company doing subcontracted work for landlords with rented property that adds to our frustration and disappointment to the way its been handled.
Thanks,
