Electrical Report question re asbestos flashguards

[leegration]

Hi all,

I've been asked if I can provide an electrical report on a property that's going through the process of purchasing for a client.

Now, I know there's no way of deeming an old installation unsafe/"has" to be changed due to it not conforming with current regs, as the install at the time it would have complied with the regs then etc..

My question is though, how do we go about making the point of asbestos flashguards. It's an old mem re-wirable cartridge fuse install, with the asbestos guards located by the fuses themselves, those who know the ones, know. So with regards to this and the potential dangers of the harmful asbestos fibres being released if/when a fuse would blow on removal/change of the fuse, my argument would be that this then deems the install unsafe for continued use, especially to non-competent persons. Without "in theory" getting in an asbestos removal company & electrician each time a fuse goes, or having to do this all in one hit anyway and change the board etc on moving in, though this will inevitably cause the obvious costs at kickoff.

Can anyone shed any light on this please ?

Many thanks

 

[Pete999]

This is a domestic property with how many fuses?

 

[leegration]

Yeah sorry, domestic, 6-ways

 

[Pete999]

So every time a fuse ruptures are you saying that we need an asbestos removal company and all that entails, clean rooms etc to change a fuse?

 

[Andy78]

The purpose of your report is to assess the installation for safety for continued use with regards to:

• the safety of persons and livestock from shocks and burns
• protection of property from heat and fire from defects in the installation
• installation is not damaged or defective so as to impair safety
• departures from regs that may give rise to danger

These flash guards do not, if undamaged, fall within the remit of your report. You are not trained to assess the safety of a material, just that the equipment is undamaged and safe for use electrically.

As an arse covering exercise, you may may put down in your comments that the guards could be assessed for safety by a specialist if the client so wished, and that you can offer no expertise as to their level of potential hazard.

 

[Charlie_]

C2 potentially dangerous
Fuseboard needs to be replaced

 

[Engineer54]

C2 potentially dangerous
Fuseboard needs to be replaced

Crap, if that were true i'd have been dead many years ago!! I've even had lecturers admit that fuse flash guards are of no real concern, at the upteen Asbestos awareness courses i've had to attend over the years...

Pure ongoing scarmongery!!

 

[Dcf]

C2 ?
dont think so
i can see this thread turning into a total ****fest already.
im out

 

[Charlie_]

Really!??
Why so many asbestos courses? Perhaps you should go on a decent course where the lecturers know what they are talking about!
Why has there been so many successful lawsuits won by electricians against manufacturers then?
Special guidelines are in place for the replacement and servicing of items containing asbestos pads..
Why?? Because they are totally harmless, yeah right ok..

 

[Farmelectrics]

well put andy 78

 

[Geordie Spark]

Hi all,

I've been asked if I can provide an electrical report on a property that's going through the process of purchasing for a client.

Now, I know there's no way of deeming an old installation unsafe/"has" to be changed due to it not conforming with current regs, as the install at the time it would have complied with the regs then etc..

My question is though, how do we go about making the point of asbestos flashguards. It's an old mem re-wirable cartridge fuse install, with the asbestos guards located by the fuses themselves, those who know the ones, know. So with regards to this and the potential dangers of the harmful asbestos fibres being released if/when a fuse would blow on removal/change of the fuse, my argument would be that this then deems the install unsafe for continued use, especially to non-competent persons. Without "in theory" getting in an asbestos removal company & electrician each time a fuse goes, or having to do this all in one hit anyway and change the board etc on moving in, though this will inevitably cause the obvious costs at kickoff.

Can anyone shed any light on this please ?

Many thanks

This bloke maybe?? >>>>>>>>. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYmdqVaRZok

 

[leegration]

Hahaha quality !

 

[davesparks]

C2 potentially dangerous
Fuseboard needs to be replaced

Which particular regulation in bs7671 would you back that statement up with ?

 

[trev]

Which particular regulation in bs7671 would you back that statement up with ?

Thanks mate, saves me a typing job.

 

[Knobhead]

Flash guards are asbestos cement. Almost zero risk unless you cut or break them.

Are you doing a report or trying to make extra income for yourself with extra work?