electricity meter

[amckay]

If I was to swap a meter for a landlord eg. What type of cert would it require? Just an EIC?

 

[LVSparks]

If its the dnos meter get them to change it, any other meter change yourself. Issue a minor if requested. Otherwise check for polarity and zs.

 

[Richard Burns]

Why would I get in trouble?
Genuine question...

The suppliers electricity meter is the property of the suppliers and it is an offence to interfere with it (as they state on their warning labels).
If you are removing it this is also theft (of the meter).
Cutting the seals of the meter is also classed as criminal damage.
Removing a meter that is specifically set up to record the usage of electricity would be then classed as fraud, since you are defrauding the supplier of their means of metering.
If you have removed the meter and the result is that there is no recorded use then this is theft of electricity.

This is all I can think of at the moment.

 

[northstar]

If you are taking out the suppliers meter and replacing it with a private meter, then I would also make sure that your paperwork has no identifying name or address details and that you use a different work vehicle that is not traceable to you.:cowboy:

what are you suggesting turn up on your horse as Dick Turpin

 

[Octopus]

The suppliers electricity meter is the property of the suppliers and it is an offence to interfere with it (as they state on their warning labels).
If you are removing it this is also theft (of the meter).
Cutting the seals of the meter is also classed as criminal damage.
Removing a meter that is specifically set up to record the usage of electricity would be then classed as fraud, since you are defrauding the supplier of their means of metering.
If you have removed the meter and the result is that there is no recorded use then this is theft of electricity.

This is all I can think of at the moment.

and it would land your client in a whole heap of trouble too, as the supplier would see it as theft.

 

[amckay]

I've checked on dnos website (electricity north west) and they state the meter is nothing to do with them and its down to supplier.
I don't think the meter is actually owned by anyone. If say it was owned by British gas by customer desides to changer supplier to say eon, would British gas "sell" the meter to eon?
Personally I can't see it happening.
As for theft (abstraction of electricity) a new meter is going in straight away??
Theft of old meter -that's up to the customer as I ain't removing it!

 

[Octopus]

I've checked on dnos website (electricity north west) and they state the meter is nothing to do with them and its down to supplier.
I don't think the meter is actually owned by anyone. If say it was owned by British gas by customer desides to changer supplier to say eon, would British gas "sell" the meter to eon?
Personally I can't see it happening.
As for theft (abstraction of electricity) a new meter is going in straight away??
Theft of old meter -that's up to the customer as I ain't removing it!

When a meter is changed the "person" doing the work is an employee of the supplier and they are responsible for the meter readings for the old and new meters.

I would recommend you clarify what the customer wants/has and take if from there.

 

[amckay]

When a meter is changed the "person" doing the work is an employee of the supplier and they are responsible for the meter readings for the old and new meters.

I would recommend you clarify what the customer wants/has and take if from there.

Do you mean that the only person permissible to change a meter should be an employee of an energy supplier?

 

[Octopus]

Do you mean that the only person permissible to change a meter should be an employee of an energy supplier?

God this is difficult.

If the meter is the one used to "bill" the company like BG, EDF, SSE, only THEY can remove and replace it.

 

[amckay]

Just out of curiosity where does it state this? I've tried searching (as its a bit of a grey area) but found nothing.

 

[davesparks]

Look in your onsite guide for a start, they have pictures identifyin that the cutout, tails and meter belong to the supplier and then the outgoing tails belong to the consumer.

 

[amckay]

Yes but the osg and bgb doesn't say if you can replace or move a meter does it?

 

[amckay]

Just to add to that the osg may well be wrong (if you have stated what it says (i m not going to my van now to get osg out!))
The cutout belongs to dno not supplier. My dno states meter is noting to do with them. A supplier cannot readily own a meter if a consumer can change supplier as changing supplier would mean the meter has a new owner and I severely doubt that would be the case as it wouldn't be cost effective to have a national database to keep track of who owns what

The question now is what law/regulation says an electrician cannot replace a meter with another meter.
I'm after a law/regulation NOT a policy

 

[7029 dave]

Your only play will be with sub meter, supply meter is not your domaine. (hands off)

 

[Silly Sausage]

Right, the cut-out is the distributor's property, the meter is the property of the supplier(s).

OSG 2.2.2 Electricity Meter.
The terminals will be sealed by the meter owner to prevent interference by unauthorised persons.

I.E., it's not the customers or yours, you can't mess with it.
Changing it could be considered theft I suppose!

 

[Octopus]

Just to add to that the osg may well be wrong (if you have stated what it says (i m not going to my van now to get osg out!))
The cutout belongs to dno not supplier. My dno states meter is noting to do with them. A supplier cannot readily own a meter if a consumer can change supplier as changing supplier would mean the meter has a new owner and I severely doubt that would be the case as it wouldn't be cost effective to have a national database to keep track of who owns what

The question now is what law/regulation says an electrician cannot replace a meter with another meter.
I'm after a law/regulation NOT a policy

With the greatest respect, you are:

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the public/sparks DO NOT meddle with suppliers meters