No I'm not asking how to do it, nor if what I have done is right, just saying been out there working this morning, my knees, back, legs, head, arms, in fact everything aches, I really must try and slow down, still Camera bloke is coming over tomorrow he can finish off, I hope, crikey I really do hurt still a few beers and some Tramadol will help ease the pain, just thought you all would like to know I haven't forgotten how to do things, have a nice day.