Emergency lighting replacement

[sparkies2306]

Hi guys

just some advice, have been asked by a small hotel to replace their emergency fittings to new led type fitting
I am wondering do I still need to supply all certificates on this as only a replacement

the hotel doesn't have a emergency lighting cert for years, on the new Certs there a four pages to it but not all on them applies to a refit of fittings

any my advice appreciated

 

[Poult12]

Mr Tazz be your man i think.

 

[Sintra]

IMO you should supply a certificate with the relevant sections filled in an also supply a log book and test facility if not already present. Surprised as it's a hotel they don't have certs already as these are normally needed for entertainments licences etc.

 

[sparkies2306]

IMO you should supply a certificate with the relevant sections filled in an also supply a log book and test facility if not already present. Surprised as it's a hotel they don't have certs already as these are normally needed for entertainments licences etc.

i am Niceic reg so I'll just fill in one of the cert best I can and put in as many lim that needed

I totally agree on comment about hotel but it is one that has let an awful lot get beyond them when it comes to electrical testing
their problem now is their insurance company starting to ask for info on all test so they don't have any choice but to do it and if I was to say where it was in london people wouldn't believe it but it's typical of them all about money and don't like spending it

 

[wozz]

Being nic has nothing to do with it.

Why are you replacing them? Have they failed a drain down test? Have you compared the output of the old and new to make sure it's not decreasing? Will you be updating em drawings and design info? There ar other things to consider but it all starts getting a bit beyond me.

 

[tazz]

Would imagine the hotel does not even have as fitted drawings, but you are correct Wozz. I would suggest a full survey before installing any EM lighting....you need to know you are meeting relevant standards required. Key points are meeting lux levels in corridors, staircases, lifts, etc. This info will be available from EM manufactures, as lux level over sq M. This will then allow you to design the system to meet 5266 standards. You will then have a clear idea of where each EM fitting needs to be installed. Point to remember, is you are signing for the Design, installation and commissioning, as just because the EM is existing, does not mean it was installed correctly first time round.

 

[sparkies2306]

Would imagine the hotel does not even have as fitted drawings, but you are correct Wozz. I would suggest a full survey before installing any EM lighting....you need to know you are meeting relevant standards required. Key points are meeting lux levels in corridors, staircases, lifts, etc. This info will be available from EM manufactures, as lux level over sq M. This will then allow you to design the system to meet 5266 standards. You will then have a clear idea of where each EM fitting needs to be installed. Point to remember, is you are signing for the Design, installation and commissioning, as just because the EM is existing, does not mean it was installed correctly first time round.

So you are saying here if you get called to a job that has a broken emergency fitting you need to do all tests lux levels to meet upto date standards

don't get me wrong I understand what's being said but seems a lot just for supplying a replacement fitting

I am just updating fittings to new led type might give this a miss

 

[tazz]

Dont give it a miss, treat this as a learning curve and a job.....look at advice and go from there. Make a quick drawing of hotels areas of concern, like corridors staircase, and work out if you will meet requirements. If it does not, then inform customer, and do the job....then you have do it correctly and possible fitted more lighting. You dont fit a kitchen without measuring it first, well same here, do the measurements, and fit correctly.