Erbauer Drills any good

[pirate]

Horses for courses, @Dustydazzler
If I have drilling to do, into brick or concrete, at or near ground level, and assuming there is mains power nearby, I'll plug in my 40 year old Black&Decker or my amazing cheapo Ferm SDS and just batter on. Up a ladder,or anywhere with no power, then it's the cordless stuff all the way. Basically, I go with what stresses me and my tools the least.

 

[LukeD]

I can't think of any advantage to ban power tools other than removing the trip hazard of having trailing extension leads dragging on the floor

Other than that I can't think of a single reason to only use a battery tool over a corded tool

Something to do with PAT??? Some businesses wont allow stuff to be plugged in to their sockets unless all the GEAR is tested and signed off etc ?

 

[HappyHippyDad]

Screwfix...... return it , they give you another one ! best returns policy there is . If a cheap tool lasts a year etc , thats a bargain.And depends how it treated and abused etc . I know of one joiner who drops every tool he can . shows them zero respect .never cleans them etc. Then wonders why they fail ! Yes, It wont be as good as a new 18v Dewalt .But its not in the same area of quality expectation etc ?

I think that's a poor attitude to have. I can understand it from a purely money point of view, but the throw away culture is so damaging to the environment which is in turn is damaging to our children and children's children.
I really don't mean any offence to you here Luke, you sound like a decent chap and I think your view of cheap tools is probably very common, but worth thinking about the bigger picture.

 

[LukeD]

I think that's a poor attitude to have. I can understand it from a purely money point of view, but the throw away culture is so damaging to the environment which is in turn is damaging to our children and children's children.
I really don't mean any offence to you here Luke, you sound like a decent chap and I think your view of cheap tools is probably very common, but worth thinking about the bigger picture.

MY Estwing Hammers are 38 years old . Most of my tools I have bought second hand (mainly festool etc) .I am the charity shop king (High end shops....I look absolutely amazing when i go out !) Ive never bought a new car etc. All my camera gear. hifi gear and expensive watches all second hand . I agree fully with you. I think "decent " is a bit of a understatement ....I'm a few steps up the ladder

 

[nicebutdim]

Something to do with PAT??? Some businesses wont allow stuff to be plugged in to their sockets unless all the GEAR is tested and signed off etc ?

Shouldn't pose much of a problem for sparks, but would be a bonus in stopping other trades constantly looking for power.

 

[telectrix]

MY Estwing Hammers are 38 years old . Most of my tools I have bought second hand (mainly festool etc) .I am the charity shop king (High end shops....I look absolutely amazing when i go out !) Ive never bought a new car etc. All my camera gear. hifi gear and expensive watches all second hand . I agree fully with you. I think "decent " is a bit of a understatement ....I'm a few steps up the ladder

Much the same with me. Henry from a car boot for £2;

MY Estwing Hammers are 38 years old . Most of my tools I have bought second hand (mainly festool etc) .I am the charity shop king (High end shops....I look absolutely amazing when i go out !) Ive never bought a new car etc. All my camera gear. hifi gear and expensive watches all second hand . I agree fully with you. I think "decent " is a bit of a understatement ....I'm a few steps up the ladder

much the same with me. henry from acar boor for £2: Hitachi 24V SDS drill £70 2nd hand: Canon EOS 40D would not switch on £40, but after a few times inserting and removing the battery, it fired up and is 100% working. most expensive thing i have bought is my Toyota Hiace. Bought for £1500 wiith 170,000 on the clock and a few dents. Had it 7 years now, only bills for serviceable items (timing belt kit and clutch). If Clarkson could not destroy it's brother, then good enough from me..

 

[littlespark]

Old joke I know…

I’ve got a 50 year old broom that belonged my grandad… only had 4 replacement handles and 2 replacement heads

 

[pirate]

NIce camera that, Tel...and many will say it's old-hat, but a good one whatever.

 

[Dustydazzler]

So...

I bought the drill ( couldn't resist a deal ) 2 x 18v batteries and a nice carry bag

It has a heck of a lot of torque , (more than my old hitachi) it smashed 3 inch wood screws in with ease

It doesn't feel as good quality in the hand as say a more expensive dewalt or milwakee but these brands are like 3 or 4 times the price

 

[nicebutdim]

What's the model number?

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[Dustydazzler]

What's the model number?

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It is this one...

Erbauer 18V 1 x 4.0Ah Li-Ion EXT Brushless Cordless Impact Driver - Screwfix

Order online at Screwfix.com. High torque impact driver with brushless motor and LED light for work in poorly lit areas. Protective metal gearbox housing for durability. Advanced brushless motor technology for more power and higher torque. Keep Cool battery technology actively manages...

www.screwfix.com

My only issue with it , is seems all or nothing ( although it claims variable speed ) when you pull the trigger. Its a bit of a beast.

My old hitachi had a better degree of variable control and I knew how much welly to give it.

I would happily use my old drill on a consumer unit ( I woudn't ) but I would feel confident to get the correct tightness

The Erbauer I wouldn't go anywhere near a terminal screw with it

 

[LukeD]

If you had to pay the new price for the Erbauer .... This would be the better buy for not a lot more

DeWalt DCF787D2T-SFGB 18V 2.0Ah Li-Ion XR Brushless Cordless Impact Driver - https://www.screwfix.com/p/dewalt-dcf787d2t-sfgb-18v-2-0ah-li-ion-xr-brushless-cordless-impact-driver/489hp I have it with same batteries and some much larger ones. Even with the Kit batteries , it sure can sink screws..... Now here is a very over looked issue .I know people that are tool tarts . But skimp on using quality screws and the RIGHT types ! This make a HUGE difference . A cheap screw is not worth it in the end !!

 

[PEG]

Just gonna throw in a shout for Hikoki.....had reason to "invest" in several of the multivolt versions,and what a piece of kit

The 1/2" impact wrench is awesome...will quite easily strip M22 ....and the best way i can describe the impact gun,is it feels like a child's toy with a nuclear reactor fitted

Got a pal who lives for Festool and Milwaukee,who was staggered with the little yoke.....after trying to find something it would fail on. Only thing he whined about was the larger battery,but he can keep his 60 quid a month gym fees,and i'll buy 3/4 of another battery to love

 

[nicebutdim]

If you had to pay the new price for the Erbauer .... This would be the better buy for not a lot more

DeWalt DCF787D2T-SFGB 18V 2.0Ah Li-Ion XR Brushless Cordless Impact Driver - https://www.screwfix.com/p/dewalt-dcf787d2t-sfgb-18v-2-0ah-li-ion-xr-brushless-cordless-impact-driver/489hp I have it with same batteries and some much larger ones. Even with the Kit batteries , it sure can sink screws..... Now here is a very over looked issue .I know people that are tool tarts . But skimp on using quality screws and the RIGHT types ! This make a HUGE difference . A cheap screw is not worth it in the end !!

Definitely. Scrulox every time.

 

[LukeD]

Just gonna throw in a shout for Hikoki.....had reason to "invest" in several of the multivolt versions,and what a piece of kit

The 1/2" impact wrench is awesome...will quite easily strip M22 ....and the best way i can describe the impact gun,is it feels like a child's toy with a nuclear reactor fitted

Got a pal who lives for Festool and Milwaukee,who was staggered with the little yoke.....after trying to find something it would fail on. Only thing he whined about was the larger battery,but he can keep his 60 quid a month gym fees,and i'll buy 3/4 of another battery to love

I ma about to buy a sliding compound saw. IF i can locate a nice Festool Kapex for the money I will 100% buy one .If not Hitachi/hikoki . They are amazing tools .