European socket fitted in UK.

[Mazak]

Hi.
Are there any requirements or contraindications to fit European socket in the wall within the ring circuit?

 

[Pete999]

Hi.
Are there any requirements or contraindications to fit European socket in the wall within the ring circuit?

Can't recall, but the British Ring Final Circuit (Ring circuit) is designed around the 13Amp sockets I don't think it would be a good idea.

 

[Engineer54]

Hi.
Are there any requirements or contraindications to fit European socket in the wall within the ring circuit?

You mean apart from not complying with BS7671 requirements and the fact that most European type socket outlets, typically German SHUKO plugtops are not polarised, the simple answer is Yes!!

Don't Do It!!

 

[Farmelectrics]

its a no no dosent comply with bs7671

 

[Mazak]

You mean apart from not complying with BS7671 requirements and the fact that most European type socket outlets, typically German SHUKO plugtops are not polarised, the simple answer is Yes!!

Don't Do It!!

Flat plug is not polarised. Right..What will happen then if somebody will put that kind of plug reversed? Just theoriticall idea.
Need to understand that, as I had some problems with European sat. receiver, and needed to make extra earthing to housing/case with completly new UK cable and plug. Before was nearly 100 V on housing. Why?

 

[SparkyJoe]

I've seen them in posh hotels (or they could of been yank), but I was have too much of a jolly good time to find out how it was connected ;D

 

[Lucien Nunes]

Small electronic units with switched-mode power supplies using 2-core power cables often produce a small amount (often around 0.25 mA) of leakage current to the case. Using a digital meter, you will often read some voltage to earth, often around half the supply voltage or 80-120V. This is normal and not dangerous, provided the insulation of the unit tests OK. As soon as you make any kind of ground path, maybe even just touching the casing, that voltage will collapse.

Fitting European socket in UK for a specific purpose (not general use) - in principle OK if it provides an equivalent level of safety. But they MUST NOT BE CONNECTED TO A 32A RING or radial except via a fused spur, as they require fusing at 16A (or 10A) max.

 

[Mazak]

From another forum: BUT, and it's a big but, you don't have to follow BS7671, and actually you don't have to follow the plug and socket regs either - if you did, you'd never be allowed a lead with a blue caravan socket on it either. As soon as you accept that intelligent departures are allowed, then its OK.
However, what you must do, is install to make it no more dangerous than it would be in the country of origin.
A properly wired and protected socket is MUCH safer than either a chinese made adaptor of uncertain earthing, or as often done, the thin europlug forced into the L and N holes of the 13A socket with the earth shutters lifted by a screwdriver or a biro. In reality this is what you get when visitors bring their own stuff, and you don't make provision for them to use it.
For a hotel with many foreign visitors to provide a properly protected Schucko socket or two as well as the normal 13A ones is a perfectly reasonable and responsible course, that removes these dangers.
regards
Mike "

 

[Lucien Nunes]

I agree with this, but you do not say why you want to install a non-BS1363 socket outlet. Obviously it would not be acceptable to wire UK houses with only Schuko, for example, as it would not then be possible to plug in locally purchased equipment without changing the plugs. What is the special purpose for your outlet?

 

[Octopus]

Hi.
Are there any requirements or contraindications to fit European socket in the wall within the ring circuit?

If this is your own house, do so at you and your familys risk.

If its a paying customer, I would say decline to do so unless you can find compliance within the BGB.

 

[Deleted member 26818]

Installing a foreign socket-outlet in a UK installation does comply with BS7671.
It would be arguably against the Regs to connect it to an RFC as these are intended to be used with BS1363 accessories.
However connecting such an accessory to a radial would not be a problem.

 

[davesparks]

From another forum: BUT, and it's a big but, you don't have to follow BS7671, and actually you don't have to follow the plug and socket regs either - if you did, you'd never be allowed a lead with a blue caravan socket on it either.

regards
Mike "

Please do specify which regulation says you cannot have a lead with a commando socket on it. ( I assume that is what you mean by blue caravan plug)
Our hire stock includes a few thousand leads with everything from blue 16A plugs/sockets up to 125A red plugs /sockets and would love to know what regulation this contravenes!

 

[Octopus]

Hi.
Are there any requirements or contraindications to fit European socket in the wall within the ring circuit?

What does your scheme help line say?

 

[davesparks]

What does your scheme help line say?

Today they'll say yes, tomorrow they'll say no and on Monday they'll say 'that's another £500 please'

 

[Octopus]

Today they'll say yes, tomorrow they'll say no and on Monday they'll say 'that's another £500 please'

Or the OP will say "what is a scheme"??