Evening from the dark side!

[Gasmanrob]

Hello all,

ive just popped over from the plumbers forum to ask a question I'm sure has been posted to death if your introduction pages are anything like ours.

basically I'm trying to find out what qualifications id need to carry out electrical work in all types of premises.

i work for an m and e firm and now and again need to repair/test/replace electrimical stuffs. Nothing strenuous unscrew replace re screw types but occasionally there is need to add on to or extend. Now obviously being m and e we have sparks but not always in the same part of the country and it's frustrating knowing what needs to be done but unable to do it as the contract stipulates related trade only.

domestic installer part p won't do it as that's only dwellings and we work on any thing from bed sits to museums.

is there a sensible route to becoming qualified/competent and more importantly recognised as such that won't massively interfere with my current responsibilities etc.

thanks in advance

oh and 1million posts check you...... :49:

 

[Sintra]

I also work for an M&E company and can relate to what you're saying. We actually ran in house training for most of our mechanical guys and taught them the basics of safe isolation, changing accessories etc. They were also issued with test probes and proving units and are always able to lift the phone to a spark. Might be worth speaking to your employers as they have a duty to train you for all tasks that they require you to do.

 

[uksparks]

What is M&E? Is it maintenance and something?

Mechanical and engineering maybe?

 

[Leesparkykent]

What is M&E? Is it maintenance and something?

Mechanical and engineering maybe?

Mechanical and electrical.

 

[tigerpaul]

I'd agree with sintra. What type of electrical modifications do you have to do? As you can imagine,.there are a lot of different type of tasks, and even the same task but in different circumstance will change the risks involved. Your company should give you the adequate training so you can perform the task safely, accurately and with confidence.

 

[Gasmanrob]

Confidence isn't an issue I'm comfortable with electrics I really enjoy that side of the job. But the company we receive work from states only qualified electricians are to carry out electrical work. That includes anything from changing a lamp to adding additional switch gear.

Type of stuff I'm likely to need to do is replacing contactors and relays, replacing cable for longer when a unit is changed and the connections have moved so the cable no longer reaches. That could be single or 3 phase.

then domestically anything from adding a fuse spur to finding a dropped neutral and of course the birds nest that often calls itself a wiring centre.

 

[Leesparkykent]

Confidence isn't an issue I'm comfortable with electrics I really enjoy that side of the job. But the company we receive work from states only qualified electricians are to carry out electrical work. That includes anything from changing a lamp to adding additional switch gear.

Type of stuff I'm likely to need to do is replacing contactors and relays, replacing cable for longer when a unit is changed and the connections have moved so the cable no longer reaches. That could be single or 3 phase.

then domestically anything from adding a fuse spur to finding a dropped neutral and of course the birds nest that often calls itself a wiring centre.

Doing your 2382 17th edition and 2394 Initial Verification & Certification would be an advantage but under the eyes of the jib you wouldn't be graded as an electrician until you completed an nvq3. To successfully complete the nvq3 you would need to do city and guilds 2365 level 2&3 (technical qualifications) or the EAL equivalents. Once the technical qualifications are successfully completed you would then convert these in to the nvq level3 2357 where you would have to complete 1 or 2 bridging units, the AM2 exam and site based portfolio.

With the the nvq 3, technical qualifications and 17th edition you would be graded as an installation electrician. If you also completed the 2394 and 2395 or EAL equivalents on top of the above qualifications and two years site experience you would be graded as an approved electrician.

 

[shanky887614]

Doing your 2382 17th edition and 2394 Initial Verification & Certification would be an advantage but under the eyes of the jib you wouldn't be graded as an electrician until you completed an nvq3. To successfully complete the nvq3 you would need to do city and guilds 2365 level 2&3 (technical qualifications) or the EAL equivalents. Once the technical qualifications are successfully completed you would then convert these in to the nvq level3 2357 where you would have to complete 1 or 2 bridging units, the AM2 exam and site based portfolio.

With the the nvq 3, technical qualifications and 17th edition you would be graded as an installation electrician. If you also completed the 2394 and 2395 or EAL equivalents on top of the above qualifications and two years site experience you would be graded as an approved electrician.

i did the conversion course because i trained to the old 2330.

anyway long story short, all i had to do was the renewables bridging unit.

now if you do the 2356 i recon it might have been added but i could be wrong (i had to do my english when i did the conversion course because of how long it had been since i left school)

the renewables was a joke really.

what does pv stand for?

what colour pipes for grey water, how deep should a bore hole be for a domestic house etc


all they will do is copy your 2365 certs and tick the box for prior qualifications then you will start on the logbook (if tge course you chose covers everything)