Ever feel as though your being setup to fail.

[RDB85]

I’ve been in the Fire and Security Industry arounf 3 years now and have my qualifications. I was given an Install of a Panel change and Keypad and Speaker.

Now our so called supervisor of 30 years said it’s only half a day. Long story short it was a full day. Lots of issues, took a whole day and a cable being completely down on cores didn’t help.

So I know I’m not the quickest, but I do my best, alway leave the premises better than I found it and do thing to standards. Our manager then phoned and said we’ve lost money on that job. Now correct me if I’m wrong but that not all my fault. I just feel as though they set you up to fail. Plus the training is none existent, it’s basically get on with it and work it out.

Feedback welcome.

 

[timhoward]

They charge you out at 150 quid a day, and give you 12 quid a day back, and take tax from that, leaving you £54.07 a week. Whilst they got £695.93 a week for you.

I was thinking about exactly this when I read something earlier in the thread. If they are paying MW and claiming they lost money if a job took a day instead of a morning then that is saying about £40-£50 plus employers NI tipped the balance. (assuming the OP is over 23 years old)
Surely the margins can't be that tight to run a company with staff, vans, premises, admin people etc.
I'd take the comment they lost money with a large pinch of salt. If they really did then it was a job they should have turned down in the first place!

 

[mainline]

I was thinking about exactly this when I read something earlier in the thread. If they are paying MW and claiming they lost money if a job took a day instead of a morning then that is saying about £40-£50 plus employers NI tipped the balance. (assuming the OP is over 23 years old)
Surely the margins can't be that tight to run a company with staff, vans, premises, admin people etc.
I'd take the comment they lost money with a large pinch of salt. If they really did then it was a job they should have turned down in the first place!

They probably mean they should have made £1000 and only made £800 so count it as a £200 loss.

 

[RDB85]

Regarding the if I’m happy doing the job. It’s okay and I prefer doing the CCTV side of it and wouldn’t mind moving into Home Automation. There isn’t many companies around Liverpool that do it as a service. It’s expensive and specialist. I do have my Level 2 and 3 2365 and only moved to Fire and Security as an Apprentice to get a start. I’m still looking to pursue the Electrical career. No one is willing to take on someone in their 30s with no Electrical experience.

 

[nicebutdim]

Regarding the if I’m happy doing the job. It’s okay and I prefer doing the CCTV side of it and wouldn’t mind moving into Home Automation. There isn’t many companies around Liverpool that do it as a service. It’s expensive and specialist. I do have my Level 2 and 3 2365 and only moved to Fire and Security as an Apprentice to get a start. I’m still looking to pursue the Electrical career. No one is willing to take on someone in their 30s with no Electrical experience.

They are and they do, although it's likely to be more difficult than at 16.

 

[MJPD29]

Regarding the if I’m happy doing the job. It’s okay and I prefer doing the CCTV side of it and wouldn’t mind moving into Home Automation. There isn’t many companies around Liverpool that do it as a service. It’s expensive and specialist. I do have my Level 2 and 3 2365 and only moved to Fire and Security as an Apprentice to get a start. I’m still looking to pursue the Electrical career. No one is willing to take on someone in their 30s with no Electrical experience.

If that is the case and you have identified a gap in the market in your local area, and can’t follow the path you want to (apprenticeship), then a domestic installer course with an eye on domestic home automation could be an option?

 

[KWCFC]

I work in the fire and security industry. Have been for 10 years.

What I will say is this industry is absolutely blowing up right now and the demand for people who are good at this sort of work is crazy. More or less every single company is desperate for people.

A lot of companies recognise this, and really look after their best lads to try and stop them from jumping elsewhere. I will personally go weeks or months without even speaking to my boss, because he knows I like being left alone.

3 years isnt a huge amount of experience but I expect it will be enough for most companies, if you don't like your job then there is no point in staying as it will be very easy for you to find something else.

 

[RDB85]

If I wasn’t in the position of buying a flat I would of jumped ship. You’ve got to love some of the people you work with. One of the ones today was it’s okay for our alarm panel to work from a switched FCU to a unswitched FCU as long as it’s spurred from the live side!

I just didn’t have the heart to tell him that he was talking absolute rubbish.