Fair price for big EICR

[bilbo_88]

Have a commercial customer who needs a scheduled EICR. Limitations have been agreed at 30% of circuits to be tested but even so I am looking at testing well over 100 circuits. What would you agree is a fair price per circuit considering there is so much to do but at the same time we obviously are testing a lot. The job is in London and I was thinking about £15.00 per circuit or does this seem expensive?? THANKS! Bilbo

 

[TJ Anderson]

It is very competitive market now. They wont wear day work. Good luck. Electrical Compliance Prices | Circuit Electrical Testing | Circuit Electrical

 

[Guest77]

Have a commercial customer who needs a scheduled EICR. Limitations have been agreed at 30% of circuits to be tested but even so I am looking at testing well over 100 circuits. What would you agree is a fair price per circuit considering there is so much to do but at the same time we obviously are testing a lot. The job is in London and I was thinking about £15.00 per circuit or does this seem expensive?? THANKS! Bilbo

I would suggest 2 circuits per hour if you include the paper work regarding test sheets and then invoicing and profit, that would be 50 hours work, at London rates that would be approx £2,500 plus vat, that said I would not give a price without a site visit, a visit can tell you much more than a ball point figure on a computer from people you have never met. Long and short of it is get to site and have a good look first.

 

[Diddy]

It is very competitive market now. They wont wear day work. Good luck. Electrical Compliance Prices | Circuit Electrical Testing | Circuit Electrical

Just wow 1000+ circuits at £6.95 per circuit. LOL. Actually not lol....more sob sob sob. To be fair the company website looks as if my 13yo niece did it so I wouldn't have thought any "large" company would be overly impressed with their professionalism.....maybe its just me though I do think if you must have an online presence then you should at the very least make it clean tidy and professional.

 

[cobrauk]

Where is it stated you can get away with only testing a % of the circuits ?

If I am putting my name to any cert I check it all

 

[Diddy]

Where is it stated you can get away with only testing a % of the circuits ?

If I am putting my name to any cert I check it all

Most large installations will be tested @ 20% done over a 5 year period that equals a 100% inspection done every 5 years without the cost or disruption of a 100% test. Very common practice. If the client wants even 10% then that is what you give them .....that is what samples and limitations are all about.

 

[Guest77]

Where is it stated you can get away with only testing a % of the circuits ?

If I am putting my name to any cert I check it all

Okay so If I asked you to check out an installation at Gloucestershire Royal Hospital and had quotes of 1k from 3 different companies would you charge me 1k and stay on site for 3 years testing every circuit on every board then? Think about it, Diddy is 100% right, you do what is asked by the client and what is agreed regarding limitation, get a grip man.

 

[cobrauk]

Thanks Diddy but what i was asking where it is stated I have heard this before but never read it

 

[richy3333]

This strategy needs to be presented properly to the customer though. There can be a fine line between covering your costs due to unforeseen circumstances, and going in at a loss to win the job with the intention of piling on the extras to make it up at the customer's expense.
If you are not completely upfront with what is included and what is not, you can risk looking like a chancer when your final bill comes in.

Definitely. Totally agree. I meant the former, not the latter. More rectus-protectus than chancer.

 

[polo1]

Thanks Diddy but what i was asking where it is stated I have heard this before but never read it

It's not "stated" anywhere, because this is something you agree specifically for each job with each client. As MDJ says, it's perfectly normal in large commercial/industrial situations...quite different from a 10 circuit domestic job (although even here you may limit the number of accessories you remove, if for no other reason than to limit damage to decoration) .

 

[cobrauk]

I am not disagreeing with what was said, I would just have liked to see it written in B&W

Removing fewer accessories I would agree that just a sample would tell you if more needed to be looked at more.
Its the testing part I wouldn't do less then 100%, because what would happen for example someone had a shock and it was one of the circuits you didn't test, would you be liable if it went to court ?

 

[Andy78]

I am not disagreeing with what was said, I would just have liked to see it written in B&W

Removing fewer accessories I would agree that just a sample would tell you if more needed to be looked at more.
Its the testing part I wouldn't do less then 100%, because what would happen for example someone had a shock and it was one of the circuits you didn't test, would you be liable if it went to court ?

See GN3 for guidance on sampling rates for inspection and testing.

 

[polo1]

Yep, Andy's advice is spot on. What you describe would only be a problem if you did not test something you had agreed to. If you agree a sampling % at an agreed rate, then find that this sampling is highlighting more widespread problems, then you go back to the client, explain what you have found and agree to increase the sample %.
.... and I appreciate that you weren't disagreeing with what had been said:santa1:

 

[BlueToBits]

I gave up trying to price per circuit commercial/industrial testing and quoted a day rate with an estimated duration. We agreed we would do a full initial inspection and test fixing faults and defects that were practicable during the course of the inspection. If they could give us of one of their maintenance staff with building knowledge, authority and a full set of keys it would be much quicker and cheaper. The maintenance guys were usually happy to take notes, foot ladders, carry gear, bring tea and run round telling people to shut down computers and machines. They would know the building layout and things like 'Production Room 3' was now 'Accounts', and 'There is no key for the lift room - just push the door really hard - it swells up when it rains' . Because our time was costing the client money, we would be given priority, immediate answers to our questions, van parking in the loading bay and generally treated like royalty. We could tell them that because we were 100% confident with all the initial test results we could start a rolling system of sample testing for subsequent years saving £100s. We would end up doing all the remedial work and new installation work too, with the same level of co-operation. We had several clients each providing between 10 and 20 man weeks work per year at any one time. We had to build their trust, we could have ripped them off but we didn't, and we didn't feel that we were being ripped off either. It worked for both sides really well. This rarely happened when working on a price-per-circuit basis.

 

[Leesparkykent]

I do a lot Of EICR's for 1 of the major sports wear retailers and I charge £22.50 a circuit

 

[Guest77]

I am not disagreeing with what was said, I would just have liked to see it written in B&W

Removing fewer accessories I would agree that just a sample would tell you if more needed to be looked at more.
Its the testing part I wouldn't do less then 100%, because what would happen for example someone had a shock and it was one of the circuits you didn't test, would you be liable if it went to court ?

There are companies the length and breadth of the UK doing EICRs daily and they all Lim circuits due to various reasoning, it is the way it is done, as mentioned it isn't a 10 way domestic board here, believe it or not there is a lot more to electrical Installations than houses, commerce and industry have coped for donkey's years with the LIM system, and we won't allow the NICEIC domestic Installer scheme to change the way it has always been lmao chuckle.