feed in tariff budget

[solarsparkie]

A mockery has just been made of the feed in budget , as now feed in costs are being born by consumers , commercial bills are starting to filter through with a feed in tariff levy on ! what a nonsense the last 9 months of DECC sham has been

 

[sedgy34]

is there a link to read up

 

[solarsparkie]

View attachment Feed in Tariff FAQs.doc there you go this is npower hand out hope it works as havnt uploaded a file before

is there a link to read up

 

[solarsparkie]

tested all good , this should be a good sales tool as energy consumers will have an ever increasing burden placed upon them, with any luck some one on here will do the calcs for forward projection costs to 2020 on installed tagets as per the ofgem install projections on all green and give indicative fit surcharges to bills over the next 8-10 years. Look forward to seeing it posted somewhere on this thread . goood luck all

 

[Earthstore]

Thanks, that is an interesting read, the section about recovering the payment if you leave N Power is interesting, not too sure how they will do that.

Me thinks some do do will be fan hitting...

 

[Gavin A]

tested all good , this should be a good sales tool as energy consumers will have an ever increasing burden placed upon them, with any luck some one on here will do the calcs for forward projection costs to 2020 on installed tagets as per the ofgem install projections on all green and give indicative fit surcharges to bills over the next 8-10 years. Look forward to seeing it posted somewhere on this thread . goood luck all

I'm pretty sure NPower have done this specifically to stir things up, and turn their customers against the feed in tariff by specifying these costs separately.

It's also probably a response to the incompetence at DECC in managing the scheme, with their predictions for take up last year being mile out from the actual take up levels, which will have hurt these companies as they'd have had to take this extra from their planned profit margins (or contingency).

 

[solarsparkie]

God no its across all suppliers , i replied to earthstore private but i can see that in order not to loose the thread ill have to make this post , this is happening across every bill in the uk ( although i can see domestic supplies may write it of to save hassle initially ) could you all just take it as read as its fact and its happened i just posted from one supplier but forgot about all you conspiracy theorists

 

[Gavin A]

God no its across all suppliers , i replied to earthstore private but i can see that in order not to loose the thread ill have to make this post , this is happening across every bill in the uk ( although i can see domestic supplies may write it of to save hassle initially ) could you all just take it as read as its fact and its happened i just posted from one supplier but forgot about all you conspiracy theorists

so it's now a conspiracy theory to think that the big 6 electricity companies might want to do things to scupper the FIT?

well that's me told then.

 

[sambotc]

Oh dear. .

 

[Ian-LS]

so for 2010/2011 the feed in tariff cost n power domestic customers a whopping 18.8p based on elec consumption of 4000 kWh and small commercial customers £4.70 based on 100 MWh annual elec consumption, larger consumers (Companies part of the CRC Energy Efficiency Scheme) will have paid out £282 based on 6,000 MWh per year

All in all its small money in the grand scheme of things. Admittidly the cost to bill payers will be higher for 2011/2012 but I think DECC can be mostly blamed for that!

 

[Earthstore]

Just one small point, the FIT covers other generation as well as PV, like all the wind turbines is Scotland for example.
Do all types of generation get added to this Fit charge on the bills?

If so, it may not look so good for PV, as I am sure that it will not be explained very well, and the public will assume that this charge is all for PV.

I am not all doom and gloom, there just appears to be wrong information portrayed to the public about PV, any one that has been involved in PV for a while will know that in real terms now is one of the best times to install PV, for capital outlay, returns, and choice of systems available, we should all be flat out, but most of us are just steady.

 

[sambotc]

Just a shame the big six have to be so spiteful in their approach.

We all know where the subsidy money is coming from, maybe it is proof that localised renewable energy is having a positive impact after all and the sceptics may want to re-consider?

 

[solarsparkie]

ok these are the Ofgem projection figures for solar in line with govt expectations ian so 76x the amount being installed in the year 2020 than 2011 so your £4 is going to turn out to be quite a big chunk , The doc number 1834 ofgem will give you planed forcasts for all renewable installs going forwards which is available from the ofgem website . Now all budget constraints have been removed by government there is no reason why targets will be missed as the feed in tariff will be modified so goals are achieved is the likly outcome

 

[Energetic]

View attachment 12788 ok these are the Ofgem projection figures for solar in line with govt expectations ian so 76x the amount being installed in the year 2020 than 2011 so your £4 is going to turn out to be quite a big chunk , The doc number 1834 ofgem will give you planed forcasts for all renewable installs going forwards which is available from the ofgem website . Now all budget constraints have been removed by government there is no reason why targets will be missed as the feed in tariff will be modified so goals are achieved is the likly outcome

Can yuu link to this please?

 

[TedM]

This is the Big6 trying to strong-arm wrestle OFGEM and DECC.

There is nothing in the FiTs legislation that says suppliers have to charge a levy on their customers for FiTs. It is merely left to 'market forces' to determine how that happens.

This appears to be a retrospective adjustment by the Big6 for what I can only assume are political reasons.

Simple solution for everyone is to switch their import supply to a company that does not impose these charges. Any of the smaller companies who have not become Voluntary Licencees will not be faced with the same costs.

@solarsparkie - prediction of future costs will not amount to a simple 76x multiplier as the tariffs with be reducing all the time. In fact I predict that the Feed-in Tariff itself will probably have disappeared (for new systems) long before 2020.