Fitting solar advice qualifications

[nicebutdim]

Actually it wont be long before thats a reality at retail level. I can achieve 2 years, buying at trade and installing myself for my home at 30p/kwh. If i could convince some trees to shrink i probably could get that even quicker

It could well happen, but much depends on how far the current situation is allowed to progress.

Today my daughter showed me a Tiktok video extolling the virtues of French electricity production and how cost to consumers is a fraction of what we pay in the UK. What it didn't explain was the real situation in France: plants off line due to huge maintenance overruns, record levels of net imports from neighbouring countries and EDF being forced to sell below cost price. I'm not sure how long French tax revenue will be able to sustain subsidised electricity or what will happen when the whole show inevitebly sh!ts the bed.

 

[swaRRR]

If you can offer a solar installation that pays for itself in 2 years then I can get you quite a few to do. Send me details please.

Too busy.

But you can get inverter-only set ups that will make your electric basically free during the summer and take a massive edge off in winter depending on your usage and usage patterns of course. You can get them put in for less than £3k. Battery storage set ups you can get for £6-10k installed. £6000/£4000 (price cap come Jan) = what?

I am currently paying £1400/year for my electric and i don't use a great deal, and i've been told (by every news outlet in the country and the government) that that's going to go up in October and then again in January.

Simples.

 

[swaRRR]

I don’t think the solar is @nicebutdim ,s issue. It’s condoning breaking the law by bypassing the meter. Unless that was a joke. if so a funny smiley emoji may have helped

Mate there's nothing immoral about ensuring your family are warm and your fridge works. Is stealing of record breaking profit-makers during a time of massive economic downturn and poverty really stealing?

And anyway, it was a joke, although i know that never stops people on forums. Wait til Dim figures out your 'supplier' doesn't actually supply you with anything but a meter.

 

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Mate there's nothing immoral about ensuring your family are warm and your fridge works. Is stealing of record breaking profit-makers during a time of massive economic downturn and poverty really stealing?

And anyway, it was a joke, although i know that never stops people on forums. Wait til Dim figures out your 'supplier' doesn't actually supply you with anything but a meter.

Half a like Isn’t available.
It was a joke brill, but still not to sure about two immoralities making a right.

Its a business, if oil companies want to make money. There is nothing we can do about it.

if we as individuals do a quote for a customer that they cannot afford, do we do it for free or just for what they can afford.

To control companies is bad for companies and the economy as a whole. The alternative is nationalise.
Nationalised companies just make the unions stronger and we have the strikes of 70s and 80s all over again.

just gone way off topic. Sorry.

 

[swaRRR]

Half a like Isn’t available.
It was a joke brill, but still not to sure about two immoralities making a right.

Its a business, if oil companies want to make money. There is nothing we can do about it.

if we as individuals do a quote for a customer that they cannot afford, do we do it for free or just for what they can afford.

To control companies is bad for companies and the economy as a whole. The alternative is nationalise.
Nationalised companies just make the unions stronger and we have the strikes of 70s and 80s all over again.

just gone way off topic. Sorry.

I'm a capitalist.

But when people literally are choosing between eating or staying warm and they put their prices up after record breaking billions in profit (ie, after everyone and everything is paid) just because they CAN, then i don't think 'stealing' from them is actually stealing. I don't think hungry people stealing food is a crime; other people do. That's fine and their prerogative.

What i do know is i'm currently getting between 2 and 5 requests per week to bypass meters for people. I haven't done any. Mainly because they can't afford it

 

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I'm a capitalist.

But when people literally are choosing between eating or staying warm and they put their prices up after record breaking billions in profit (ie, after everyone and everything is paid) just because they CAN, then i don't think 'stealing' from them is actually stealing. I don't think hungry people stealing food is a crime; other people do. That's fine and their prerogative.

What i do know is i'm currently getting between 2 and 5 requests per week to bypass meters for people. I haven't done any. Mainly because they can't afford it

“Mainly because they can’t afford it.”

im pleased you put the imoji after as I would have thought you may have meant that.

Pleased you didn’t mean it As we both know breaking the law or even advocating the breaking of the law on this forum is definitely against the rules.

You may have noticed a lack of imojis after my comment as i am not joking And my coments are absolutely serious. There is no tongue in cheak Or nudge, nudge wink, wink.

 

[swaRRR]

Mainly because they can’t afford it.
im pleased you put the imoji after as I would have thought you meant that.

Pleased you didn’t As we both know breaking the law or even advocating the breaking of the law on this forum is definitely against the rules.

You may have noticed a lack of imojis after my comment as it was not a joke.

I did the emoji's so i didn't have to get a lecture off Dim for my joke.

 

[UNG]

How much are the electricity supply companies using the MSM to condition the general public to the new norm of ridiculously high energy prices when it costs no more to get it out of the ground, the one part of the supply chain that is never mentioned are the city traders who must be getting bumper bonuses out of their oil and gas dealing in recent months

 

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How much are the electricity supply companies using the MSM to condition the general public to the new norm of ridiculously high energy prices when it costs no more to get it out of the ground, the one part of the supply chain that is never mentioned are the city traders who must be getting bumper bonuses out of their oil and gas dealing in recent months

That’s a good point. It should be taken away from the trader/ stock market. also Food should never be a commodity to traders.

 

[UNG]

That’s a good point. It should be taken away from the trader/ stock market. also Food should never be a commodity to traders.

The futures markets are where the big problems exist these guys are buying gas, oil, diesel and petrol many months and in some cases years ahead there was a time when the price dropped that they had tankers full of oil and refined fuel at anchor until the price rose sufficiently for them to make their money

 

[swaRRR]

How much are the electricity supply companies using the MSM to condition the general public to the new norm of ridiculously high energy prices when it costs no more to get it out of the ground, the one part of the supply chain that is never mentioned are the city traders who must be getting bumper bonuses out of their oil and gas dealing in recent months

I noticed recently the usually expensive Jet garages are like 10p/litre cheaper than the supermarkets. And then Asda had the gall to put out an advert saying they were lowering the price to help its customers because it really cares about them.

 

[UNG]

Asda has to pay back a rather large loan that the Issa brothers took out to buy it, it's well documented the the financial press Morrisons is in a similar position after it's takeover