Fixing electrical back boxes in wattle and daub

[BathSparks]

Doing a rewire in an old cottage. 2 sockets to be installed in main bedroom. Dividing wall to next bedroom is wattle & daub. There are sparsely placed struts in this wall. At one socket, a strut is on the left and the other on the right. These will not, in themselves provide enough support to hold a box in place. Expanding foam adhesive springs to mind but I would be grateful for any other solutions. Another idea springs to mind, bringing a piece of wood up from the floor, sort of rotated inverse noggin. The builders are placing chipboard over the rotten floor boards so I will have to move quick.

 

[telectrix]

noggin between vertical studding. or bodge it in with dot&dab adheshive.

 

[ifindoubtdont]

If it's wattle and daub, the building might be listed, or is it lathe and plaster.

 

[BathSparks]

noggin between vertical studding. or bodge it in with dot&dab adheshive.

the vertical studding seems to be too far apart for that. I am putting a double socket either side of a bed and managed to get one strut in each socket. The struts don't look up to it anyway.

 

[PaulFarrell1982]

No nails my friend

 

[BathSparks]

If it's wattle and daub, the building might be listed, or is it lathe and plaster.

These are not listed as far as I know but good point, I should check. Not sure I know the difference between Lathe and plaster and wattle and daub but this lot looks like a combo of both. There is lathe and straw, a lot of old rubbish. Behind the skirting looks like my compost heap mixed with mine discard. I would not be surprised to find a hedgehog hibernating in there. The main walls are stone about 1 foot thick. There are five of these cottages in a row but I am only working in one of them.

 

[telectrix]

goo the boxes in with dot-dab adheshive come back next day, they'll be set in stone.

 

[Guest112]

These are not listed as far as I know but good point, I should check. Not sure I know the difference between Lathe and plaster and wattle and daub but this lot looks like a combo of both. There is lathe and straw, a lot of old rubbish. Behind the skirting looks like my compost heap mixed with mine discard. I would not be surprised to find a hedgehog hibernating in there. The main walls are stone about 1 foot thick. There are five of these cottages in a row but I am only working in one of them.

fingers crossed they don't ask for an outside light, had to fit one on the outside of an old castle wall once took a lot of drilling to get therough the old stone blocks!!!

 

[Tomhw100]

would a dry liner box fit in there? ive put them in lave and plaster walls before, just cut the laves with a sharp pad saw,was a bit awkward though to be fair.

 

[ifindoubtdont]

Lathe and plaster, 1 to 1 1/4 in wide by 1/4 in thick strip of wood (lathe) and plaster you know. Wattle and daub, a woven barrier using willow type twigs (wattle) covered in cow poo and mud mixed with straw (daub). If the cottages are very old (100+) its probably wattle and daub.

 

[Robert Turnbull]

Dry lining box or some kind of noggin.