Flexible Conduit (N.Bundy job)

[Dustydazzler]

Nick Bundy ddoes imo a really neat rcbo board and uses some flexi conduit to get his cables across the garage which imo looks quite neat. But he gets quite a bit of stick in the comments about it...

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmzsyYX2ths


thoughts

 

[davesparks]

Having scanned through the video quickly I'd say a bit of cable tray screwed to the bottom of the joists would have made a neater job of that.

 

[hasel5]

That is a actually totally cack what was he thinking

 

[Midwest]

Yuck, what was he thinking.

 

[Pete999]

Yuck, what was he thinking.

How to make the CU connections look nice, and booger everything else

 

[hasel5]

I wonder what the rest of the rewire was like

 

[nicebutdim]

@UNG could you explain why you disagree with my comment stating that trunking would have been a better option?

I'm here to increase my knowledge and fully expect that people might disagree with some of my thinking, but it would be helpful if it could be explained when those thoughts are flawed - especially as later posts seem to reach consensus among others about trunking.

 

[7029 dave]

Yep he took some stick for sure.
I don't understand, nice job of housing the receivers for the kenetic switching,all in the loft/cupboard where nobody will ever see it, plus as mentioned far too much
emphasis on the CU, lets face it when AFDD becomes mandatory, dressing nice long sweeps will be gone, shortest route. lol
I have never used flexi con, its looks pants the Europeans love it for concealed work beneath plaster for its quickness in installation.

Its just a shame that it comes down to rush and tear, and maybe lack of skills to set conduit and trunking for that matter.

 

[UNG]

It doesn't look terrible in that garage

It looks awful I wouldn't do an installation like that in a dog kennel as no doubt the dog would tell me it's woof

He had plenty of excess length on the flexible tube then cut them all short and used single saddles when an all round band saddle to fix all three tubes would have been a much neater solution

@UNG could you explain why you disagree with my comment stating that trunking would have been a better option?

I'm here to increase my knowledge and fully expect that people might disagree with some of my thinking, but it would be helpful if it could be explained when those thoughts are flawed - especially as later posts seem to reach consensus among others about trunking.

See above re the disagree
Trunking would have been a much better option, I would probably have used a 50 x 50 metal trunking and bridged over the gas pipe and put it through the wall and instead of filling the hole with foam I would have used a lump of brick and some mortar

Mr Bundy seems to like to hide his best work inside enclosures and leave his poor workmanship on show

 

[ipf]

Kopex is useful for a final connection into a vibrating machine. Beyond that there are other more suitable means of containment.

It can have it's uses. In the service and catering industries, for instance, you sometimes get situations where it is ideal. In small, sectioned, bars or serveries, under worktops, linking sockets for appliances or tills, for instance.
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@UNG could you explain why you disagree with my comment stating that trunking would have been a better option?

I think that'll be because you said 'it doesn't look terrible'. People don't throw the disagrees around, these days.....so I'll just say it... I DISAGREE.

 

[Pete999]

Nick Bundy ddoes imo a really neat rcbo board and uses some flexi conduit to get his cables across the garage which imo looks quite neat. But he gets quite a bit of stick in the comments about it...

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmzsyYX2ths


thoughts

Feel sorry for the poor Sap who is supposed to be learning from him.

 

[ipf]

Feel sorry for the poor Sap who is supposed to be learning from him.

Probably right but I've not watched it Pete, just flicked through. I wouldn't give it time of day. Dipsticks craving attention, as far as I'm concerned.
Gawd!...if I'd have done that as an apprentice in my second year I'd have been hauled over the coals.

 

[Dustydazzler]

Having scanned through the video quickly I'd say a bit of cable tray screwed to the bottom of the joists would have made a neater job of that.

I installed some galv tray in a big garage once to cable tie all my cable to.
it did look a bit strange on a ‘domestic’ but it was one long run and instead of clipping everything I just did small bunches on the tray.
was much quicker than individual clipping...

 

[nicebutdim]

It looks awful I wouldn't do an installation like that in a dog kennel as no doubt the dog would tell me it's woof

He had plenty of excess length on the flexible tube then cut them all short and used single saddles when an all round band saddle to fix all three tubes would have been a much neater solution


See above re the disagree
Trunking would have been a much better option, I would probably have used a 50 x 50 metal trunking and bridged over the gas pipe and put it through the wall and instead of filling the hole with foam I would have used a lump of brick and some mortar

Mr Bundy seems to like to hide his best work inside enclosures and leave his poor workmanship on show

I'm with you. It was a throwaway comment in that the garage wasn't exactly well kept and there were worse places for a rough installation. I'd suggested trunking as the ideal option from my first post, but hadn't watched the whole video to know whether there was a good reason for not doing so - regardless, flexible conduit seemed like the least best option!

I also didn't realise he'd filled the wall with foam - that's not ideal. If it was my house I could live with the Kopex, but would make a pointed comment about it. What I wouldn't live with is a cable route filled with foam that encased all cables - he'd be digging that back out and providing something that allowed for future maintainence or additional circuits.

Sorry to say this, as Nick seems like a decent guy and generally a decent electrician, but that job's pretty shoddy and I'm surprised anyone (other than Kieran) would post it on Youtube.
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I think that'll be because you said 'it doesn't look terrible'. People don't throw the disagrees around, these days.....so I'll just say it... I DISAGREE.

I've no problem with people disagreeing with me, but like to know where my thinking is flawed ☺

 

[Dustydazzler]

Is it really ‘that’ bad...?
ok it’s not the prettiest containment with the wonky flexi tube snaking it’s way along the garage wall , but other than that it ‘does the job‘ ?

 

[gazdkw82]

I remember watching that video, I still think it looks cluttered and busy. Personally I would have ran rigid conduit but then I'm partial to a nice heavy gauge black conduit