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I've just moved into a new house, It's a 4 year home built by a major developer. The previous couple who lived here were non-diy savvy and from speaking to them on numerous occasions the only work done on the house was decorating and flooring which they got people in to do.

Now, the house has Crabtree accessories which I personally think are unsightly and have yellowed over the last few years even through nobody has smoked in the house. So, I'm currently going around changing them out for Hager items and making a few minor alterations.

I have an external single garage. It is fed by a 6mm² T&E to a double back box in my dining room. In the back box there is a set of connectors where it joints onto a 6mm² 3 core SWA which goes into the garage. I can't see any ducts and the cable appears to be directly in the ground. While I was swapping out accessories I decided to change the blank plate on this back box and found this...
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So no earthed armouring, no earthed back box and no earth tape on the black conductor of the SWA. Now I must admit I've seen a lot worse, but I'm quite annoyed that you buy a new-ish house with a copy of the EIC and come across something like this.

Now, regardless of the fact this doesn't meet BS7671 522.8.10, I thought this was downright lazy and of course I couldn't leave it as it was.

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No my tidiest job but I managed to gland the cable off in the wall which left me with very grazed knuckles. I've used a serrated washer on the back of the SWA gland to ensure good continuity between the gland and the back box and I've obviously earthed the back box.

Now there's the issue of the hole I cut in the wall. The house is dot and dabbed so it's a simple case of cutting in a new piece of plasterboard, gluing it in with dry lining adhesive and a light skim of filler. The issue is my Wife who has said if it was such an issue, surely I should get the contractor back to fix or at least pay to fix the mess and she wants me at the bare minimum to contact the NHBC.

Now, would you just fix this yourself and leave it where it was or would you get others involved to pay for the costs of repair?

The only other interesting thing is there is a 30mA RCD in the garage despite the garage being fed from an RCD protected section of the CU in the house. o_O
 
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I went luminaire shopping with my Missus yesterday and bought a few lights for the living room, dining room and hall. Changing them all over today and every single light had it's loop in a connector block taped to the wiring in the void above.


Wago box, wago connectors and a 64mm dry lining box to fix the lights to. Always done this and it makes future light changing an absolute doddle!
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I and others use the slightly smaller Click Flow 102C connector, and I ain't providing no missing link!
 
Usually, the metal back box is earthed via the screws in contact with the earthed metal eyelid screw holes of a socket.In this situation, a plastic blank plate is fitted therefore there is no earthing of the back box via the screws and needs an earth fly lead.
 
Navy solution...
if it moves, grease it
if it doesn't, paint it
and everything else...earth it

has anyone else noticed the high level of sediment in Tesco's Duoro?
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Navy solution...
if it moves, grease it
if it doesn't, paint it
and everything else...earth it

has anyone else noticed the high level of sediment in Tesco's Duoro?
(Tried to upload a pic, but "an error occurred"...doh!)

Dunno, don't shop in Tesco's, other than to get petrol and the other forms of derived liquid o_O
 
OP I would put your concerns in writing to The NHBC complete with original picture and any details you have regards the builder / contractor. The’re obliged to keep a record and might investigate, especially if they have had similar issues reported.

Regards recouping your costs, give resolver a try - google it.
 
NHBC 10 year warranty is mainly a joke...it works only if the structural build is so bad that the finished house is so far below par it is in danger of falling down...so, we have a system that tries to fix a problem that should never have arisen in the first place...building houses in places where they should not have been built without extra groundworks.
 
Jeeeez you Northerners are a bit slow on the uptake........

He already knows the neighbours garage instals as when he moved in he had a "rummage" in the neighbours garages when they where asleep.......
 

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