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[gazdkw82]

Looking at a domestic RCBO 10way board which includes SPD and AFDD protection. Iv looked but cant seem to find a board that offers all these things.

I thought hager offered RCBO's with AFD protection, but I cant seem to find it as 1 package.

Fusebox offer a decent 10way SPD board but the addition of a fusebox AFDD seems impossible.

Any suggestions?

 

[pc1966]

Wylex & Crabtree do single module width RCBO/AFDD for their boards, and you can get a basic board with incomer switch and SPD in various sizes.

Not cheap mind, but none of the AFDD are...

 

[Pete999]

Looking at a domestic RCBO 10way board which includes SPD and AFDD protection. Iv looked but cant seem to find a board that offers all these things.

I thought hager offered RCBO's with AFD protection, but I cant seem to find it as 1 package.

Fusebox offer a decent 10way SPD board but the addition of a fusebox AFDD seems impossible.

Any suggestions?

What made you opt for AFDD and SPD protection?

 

[richy3333]

hager AFDD are 2 module. Around £80 each

 

[Mike Johnson]

Add what you want to a empty two row multi way box, some examples here: Electrical Wholesaler - Consumer Distribution Boards - https://www.electricalwholesaler.ie/products/switchgearfuses/switchgeardistribution/consumerdistributionboards

 

[gazdkw82]

What made you opt for AFDD and SPD protection?

SPD because it's a friend who has alot of expensive gadgets I'd like to protect.

AFD because I view it as a necessary protective device

 

[Dustydazzler]

I personally haven’t installed any arc fault devices yet , are They really worth £80-90 a breaker...
do we suffer enough arc faults to justify the cost ?
i know they use them in America and Canada because their extension leads and plug tops are susceptible to arcing

 

[buzzlightyear]

I can understand if you have lot of pc gear like Google, but for a small pc home gear are they worth it.

 

[gazdkw82]

I think it depends. In my situation the client has fancy TVs, expensive cameras, top of the range drones, scooters, projectors etc....

Some of those could easily be effected by a surge, if they were to be effected then the cost of replacing one of those items outweighs the cost of a SPD.

Plus, kid like to future proof the board to a degree. I think we can all agree SPD and AFD will become mandatory so if I can squeeze it into budget then I'd like to include both

 

[pc1966]

To me having SPD fitted makes perfect sense for any house really. But then I have greater reasons to fear divine retribution than many...

I doubt that AFDD are really worth the cost premium now in the broad sense (i.e. how many fires per 1000 homes they stop versus the cost of fitting out a 1000 homes, etc) but obviously if it was your house that had a fire the cost is worth it.

But longer term I see that all RCBO will eventually have AFDD capability and it will become the norm in 5-10 years to fit that, a bit like the rise of all RCBO boards in place of split RCD, in place of single RCD, as the cost of the electronics parts drops.

 

[Mike Johnson]

Have the powers that be caught up with the all RCBO board and altered the warning notice on the DB something along the lines of.

"This installation is fitted with earth fault protection on each circuit, these devises need testing every six months by pushing the button marked "T" or "Test" this should switch off the supply to the individual circuit it protects, to re-instate the supply switch the individual devise back on, if the device does not switch off when the button is pressed, or will not switch back on, seek expert advice."

 

[gazdkw82]

Have the powers that be caught up with the all RCBO board and altered the warning notice on the DB something along the lines of.

"This installation is fitted with earth fault protection on each circuit, these devises need testing every six months by pushing the button marked "T" or "Test" this should switch off the supply to the individual circuit it protects, to re-instate the supply switch the individual devise back on, if the device does not switch off when the button is pressed, or will not switch back on, seek expert advice."

Isnt the term now "biannually" ?

 

[Mike Johnson]

Biannually tends to mean in a calendar year, if the installation was done part way through a year it would not work out correctly?

 

[pc1966]

You get labels saying to test twice a year. The hope is you do it when the clocks change.

The reality is it gets done when the cows come home.

 

[gazdkw82]

Biannually tends to mean in a calendar year, if the installation was done part way through a year it would not work out correctly?

Agree but biannually is what they teach at college now