Fused Spurs for Kitchen Appliances hidden in cupboard??

[sparkyjohn1]

Just wondering if anyone can shed any light on this Topic, as i have had conflicting opinions from a few sparks..
Is there any Regulations as to where fused spurs for appliances should be,, (ie, so far from each appliance..)?. I know they should be accessible and not obstructed.. I have fitted the 'grid switch system' before with 4 appliances fed from it. But recently came across this Installation,,, it has 7 fused spurs, and one single socket outlet.. Closer inspection, it was a ring, fed by 2 x 2.5 tails back to c/u 32 amp breaker.
Also Note the 2 cooker Isolators next to them,, For Cooker and Induction Hob,, Fed by 6mm and 10mm respectively.
There is a guideline stating cooker Isolators should be 2 meters from appliance,, but is only a recommendation,?!
I know the picture isn't an ideal way of Installation, but would it be acceptable? Is there anything wrong with it??
by the way, Fused spurs are for.. Fridge, Washing Machine, Dish Washer, Tumble Dryer, Extractor fan, Intergrated Microwave, and Heater in the kickboard plinth. Any feedback would be appreciated. thanks

 

[Geordie Spark]

In the legal world, as meaningless as a marshmallow coffee percolator.

And could it not be argued that the carcase of the cupboard becomes a part of the fabric of the building when it is SECURELY fastened to the wall / floor??

 

[tidyboiler]

And could it not be argued that the carcase of the cupboard becomes a part of the fabric of the building when it is SECURELY fastened to the wall / floor??

Carcase is the spelling used in the King James Version (1611) of the Bible ~ didn't know you were religious pet. :dita:

 

[overskilled]

I always make a point to the customer regarding washing machines going wrong (I've seen the damage rendered by a washing machine where the concrete block broke free (and it wasn't an old machine either)...partly demolished kitchen and thats with an accessible isolator.
Cooker isolators should be accessible as otherwise how the heck do you turn off the cooker in the event of an electrical fire? Go digging in the cupboard under the stair trying to find the fusebox? (again probably buried to keep things looking "pretty") form over function...

 

[Geordie Spark]

Carcase is the spelling used in the King James Version (1611) of the Bible ~ didn't know you were religious pet. :dita:

Thanks pet.

Have you finished washing the dishes yet??

 

[Silly Sausage]

I've seen the damage rendered by a washing machine where the concrete block broke free (and it wasn't an old machine either...partly demolished kitchen.

Hahaha...I can believe that!
See the numerous Youtube vids of washing machines with bricks inside them. :smilielol5:

 

[GLENNSPARK]

I always make a point to the customer regarding washing machines going wrong (I've seen the damage rendered by a washing machine where the concrete block broke free (and it wasn't an old machine either)...partly demolished kitchen and thats with an accessible isolator.
Cooker isolators should be accessible as otherwise how the heck do you turn off the cooker in the event of an electrical fire? Go digging in the cupboard under the stair trying to find the fusebox? (again probably buried to keep things looking "pretty") form over function...

who said owt about the only means of isolation being at the board?

 

[Geordie Spark]

I always make a point to the customer regarding washing machines going wrong (I've seen the damage rendered by a washing machine where the concrete block broke free (and it wasn't an old machine either)...partly demolished kitchen and thats with an accessible isolator.
Cooker isolators should be accessible as otherwise how the heck do you turn off the cooker in the event of an electrical fire? Go digging in the cupboard under the stair trying to find the fusebox? (again probably buried to keep things looking "pretty") form over function...

Aye ... it's even worse when the tumble dryer sets itself alight and there's no easily accessible isolator. One of our neighbours had that little problem and the kitchen was destroyed.

I'm not sure what did the most damage - the actual fire or the crews from the two fire engines that turned up.

 

[GLENNSPARK]

Hahaha...I can believe that!
See the numerous Youtube vids of washing machines with bricks inside them. :smilielol5:

i havn`t seen that...yet...

i`m just going to have a look now....lol...

 

[GLENNSPARK]

here:

Self Destructing Washing Machine Epic - Hotpoint Self Destructs - YouTube

- - - Updated - - -

lol.....

 

[tidyboiler]

Aye ... it's even worse when the tumble dryer sets itself alight and there's no easily accessible isolator. One of our neighbours had that little problem and the kitchen was destroyed.

I'm not sure what did the most damage - the actual fire or the crews from the two fire engines that turned up.

Some people will do anything to get the burly firemen round. :1:

 

[Geordie Spark]

here:

Self Destructing Washing Machine Epic - Hotpoint Self Destructs - YouTube

- - - Updated - - -

lol.....

Here's the music to go with it!!

MATCHBOX - Washmachine Boogie .wmv - YouTube

 

[Silly Sausage]

Aye ... it's even worse when the tumble dryer sets itself alight and there's no easily accessible isolator. One of our neighbours had that little problem and the kitchen was destroyed.

If that isn't a good reason not to have the isolator anywhere near the appliance, I'm not sure what is.
2 metres...who makes these things up?

 

[overskilled]

who said owt about the only means of isolation being at the board?

Well if you want to go rooting through a cupboard looking for a cooker isolator while said cooker is ablaze....be my guest....I sure as hell wouldn't be...by that stage I'd be considering either - running or yanking the cutout fuse....avoidable if the cooker isolator is accessible rather than buried in a cupboard...

 

[Geordie Spark]

If that isn't a good reason not to have the isolator anywhere near the appliance, I'm not sure what is.
2 metres...who makes these things up?

Well this happened 2 doors away from where I used to live and to be honest I think the wifey was in such a flap it wouldn't have mattered if the isolator was stuck in her hand - she still wouldn't have switched it off.

And that's the thing .... you can have as many isolators as you like put wherever you like but when things go wrong how many wifeys have the presence of mind to use them?? .......... or gadgees come to that - especially "modern day" gadgees who fill their pants whenever a car backfires.

 

[GLENNSPARK]

Well if you want to go rooting through a cupboard looking for a cooker isolator while said cooker is ablaze....be my guest....I sure as hell wouldn't be...by that stage I'd be considering either - running or yanking the cutout fuse....avoidable if the cooker isolator is accessible rather than buried in a cupboard...

like i said earlier...you do what the client requests as long as conformance is maintained...